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jdvos_com
09-21-2013, 08:51 AM
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More than one month and 5897 ‘referrals’ later and not a single contribution (or interaction)…

In this article I will share my experiences with the ‘service’ I received from Crowdfund Buzz after paying for the 98 USD Consultant Package. All information will be factual and will hopefully serve as a warning to others who might be considering www.crowdfundbuzz.com to help promote their crowdfunding campaigns.



On 8 August 2013 I started a campaign on Indiegogo.com titled ‘The Impact Of Dive Tourism On Marine Ecosystems’. This is a very important ongoing environmental project which faced quite a few challenges as the results would not favour those who in some way profit from dive tourism.

Shortly after launching the campaign I received a comment from someone offering to ‘get word out about the project’.

When I discovered she worked for Crowdfund Buzz I googled them and learned of their services. If you are reading this article you have probably already had a look at the list of services they claim to provide. As I am very cautious of investing money in services I know nothing about, and understanding the difficult nature of my campaign I sent this email to Crowdfund Buzz on 8 August 2013:




Hi there

I was contacted by one of your staff (*** ********) through my project on Indiegogo.com and am very interested in the service you offer.Before I invest, if possible I would appreciate it if you could give me a realistic assessment of my site and what results I could expect from your service:

http://igg.me/at/dive-tourism-impact/x/4259068

Any help would be greatly apprciarted,

Kind regards



In reply I received the following email from Crowdfund Buzz Founder, Matt Cooke:




Hello,

I think you have a great project! You also have a realistic funding goal.

Our service specializes in increasing the exposure and visibility of your project. Our current success rate is just over 60%, which is much better than the typical 40% success average. Our service starts at $68 with our most popular package being $98.

The first thing we would do is look over your campaign and make suggestions that have proven to make a difference with successful crowdfunding campaigns.

The next thing we would do is feature your project to the people who follow us on our social media accounts like Twitter and Facebook.

We will also professionally write and distribute a press release for your project. The press release is the best way to attract press and journalist interest in your project. It also helps bring people from news websites and blogs to your project.

We have been very successful with this type of promotion. We know We can help you project. Please reach out to us with any questions.
Thank you,
Matt Cooke



Given this very positive reply from the founder, I decided to go ahead and invest the 98 USD for their premium package…

As part of this package I was assigned an ‘Account Manager’ who was responsible for providing personal service for my campaign as well as writing the press release based on my campaign page at Indiegogo.



Lousy, Incomplete Press Release:

The press release was a poorly ‘copy/pasted’ document and I ended up having to re-write it to include some quite basic but very important omissions. In addition to this the video I included (a crucial part to the press release being successful) was not submitted as part of this release and never showed up in the final issued copy of the release. Follow up emails asking if the video was received and added to the release before the actual release date were completely ignored.



Lots Of Views, Zero Interaction

I soon noticed that I was having no interaction with my project at all (no sponsors, no comments), despite having included everything which supposedly makes a project successful (video, images, good perks etc). I emailed my ‘Account Manager’ to ask what I could do to improve my project as I was getting no suggestions from her side, and the one suggestion consisting of two sentences was very mediocre and obvious – limit the amount of perks. I did this but not surprising, it had no effect. Its interesting to point out that Crowdfund Buzz did not once contact me out of their own accord with suggestions or updates and that I continually had to beg for input and advice…I honestly don’t even know what the deal was with the ‘CrowdFunding Consultant’ I was supposed to receive for my 98 USD, because I had no correspondence with anyone apart from the disinterested ‘Personal Campaign Manager’ and founder Matt Cooke.

The last contact I had with the scarce ‘Account Manager’ was in reply to my concern of the lack of views I was getting via their service to which she replied:


Hello,

The press release typically has the greatest effect on traffic and donations.

Thank you,
L**** G****

This was sent on 21 August, 35 days before the end of my campaign and not a word since!
With a month left to fund the campaign, the final and last correspondence I received from Crowdfund Buzz was in response to an email I sent in reply to the one above as I still saw the same trend as by this time I had several thousand views but no interactions and not a single dollar funded from views generated by Crowdfund Buzz (we will look at the stats shortly). I emailed Matt Cooke again as by this time my ‘Account Manager’ was nowhere to be found and his reply was this:


“…I think your project is really well structured. You have a lot of time left with 34 days. Sometimes people have to see the project a couple of time before they will get involved. We will keep sending qualified traffic*.”

*Note the use of the phrase ‘qualified traffic’, we will come back to this shortly…
Along with this I was finally sent the links to the stats pages used by Crowdfund Buzz to analyse the source and quantity of traffic.

This correspondence was on 23 August, still 33 days before the end of my campaign.



Since then I have tried to contact them on several occasions with simple questions regarding the questionable stats (which we will look at now) to get answers and I have been completely ignored.


scam

/skam/
Noun
A dishonest scheme; a fraud.

Verb
Swindle.



When someone/a company takes payment for services and then consciously decides not to deliver all the services advertised, I consider that to be a scam. So just to be clear: With more than a month left on my campaign, Crowdfund Buzz terminated all correspondence with me (the client) when confronted with simple questions about their service.

So what exactly did I discover which made them so uncomfortable?

Questionable Stats:

Views vs Contributions - In more than one month, Crowdfund Buzz referrals did not result in a single donation…not even a dollar:
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Below is the ‘All Time’ stats for my campaign until the date of this article:
http://jdvos.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Untitled-1.jpg

Earlier I mentioned Matt Cooke’s use of the term ‘qualified traffic’…

Lets look at the previous statement claiming that most views come from the press release. According to the stats above, of the 6027 referrals in over a month from Crowdfund Buzz, only 750 came from the press release.

What Crowdfund Buzz claims to do is to promote your campaign with relevant viewers who has a shared interest in your campaign. This includes blog writers and journalists who will supposedly write about your campaign. To date, I have not found a single blog or article related to my campaign apart from ones I was responsible for.

So all that is left is the mass of social media views.

Something very important to understand with social media marketing, is that it is only effective if you target your audience. This is a very time consuming process and can be as simple as making sure the target audience are all in the ‘income earning’ bracket (for example older than 20), that they have shared interests in what you are promoting (which in my case would be conservation issues) and that their demographic is relevant to the campaign. For example, there is no point in promoting a ‘stud farm’ campaign in Texas to a 15 year old kid sitting in Luanda, Angola.

So basically I have no idea where the 5277 social media views came from and based on the simple observation that in all the time Crowdfund Buzz were ‘promoting’ my campaign I had NO interaction (comments, questions, donations), I started doubting their relevance as this is definitely NOT ‘qualified traffic’.
The questions I started asking Matt Cooke was based on these stats and also address some of the previous issues:




Social media Promotion: How do I know Crowdfund Buzz is targeting the right viewers?

Press Promotion: The Crowdfund Buzz website claims “We will promote your crowdfunding campaign to hundreds of professional journalists and bloggers who write about your specific category.” I have no proof that this has happened and apart from the link to a single press release and the stats I have received, I have no other indication that my project was promoted in this way (where are these blogs and articles?)

Journalist Promotion: Same as above, I have no proof that this was done and based on the stats and limited interaction and views, doubt that it was.

Professional Press Release: This was a poorly ‘copy/pasted’ document and I ended up having to re-write it to include some quite basic omissions. In addition to this the video I included was not submitted as part of this release even though I sent it through before the actual release date and emails asking if it had been done were ignored.

Press Release Submission: Same as above. Three weeks and only 750 referrals from the press release which was supposed to provide the most views and donations.

Personal Campaign Manager: The responses I’ve received to the questions I’ve asked (when I got replies) were very short and in both cases obvious. Simply telling me to ‘be patient’ and that my campaign is well structured does not really explain why nothing is happening with it. Is something wrong with the content? What does your bloggers/journalists say?

Video with Press Release: Not done. Refer to email sent on the 18th.

CrowdFunding Consultant: No idea who this was supposed to be as I only dealt with Matt Cooke briefly and the ‘Personal Campaign/Account Manager”



These issues were addressed in an email to Matt Cooke on 9 September 2013 and to date I have received no reply from any staff at Crowdfund Buzz.



The Crowdfund Buzz website has endless lists of ‘successful’ campaigns, but keep in mind that usually the ‘product’ sells itself. I am sure they do manage to help many campaigns but I am certain these campaigns don’t ‘owe’ their success entirely to Crowdfund Buzz.



Conclusion

In itself the 98 USD is not a large sum of money to lose and maybe Crowdfund Buzz actually somehow manages to help your campaign, its just never fair to think of how much profit a company like Crowdfund Buzz makes off people who in most cases can not afford to lose even a hundred dollars when every penny towards the success of a campaign counts.

It is interesting to note that Crowdfund Buzz proudly displays that they belong to the ‘National Crowdfunding Association’ as well as the CfPA (or Crowdfunding Professional Association). I contacted both these Associations to inquire what to do if one of their representative companies faulted on their services, without naming which one, and neither one of them replied.

Be sure you understand how social marketing works, ask the questions before you pay and make sure you get the service you were promised, especially if you were told beforehand that it could be delivered based on your campaign. Please feel free to share this article if you have had similar experiences with Crowdfund Buzz…

UPDATE

Shortly after this post went live, I got a message from Matt Cooke offering a refund as well as a free 'Premium package' for my next campaign. Although I think this is a kind gesture for not failing to provide a service, it does not rectify the issue that many others like myself are effected in others ways than the money lost.

After investing in Crowdfund Buzz, I did expect a lot in return (as advertised!) and ended up 'losing' all the time I had to make my campaign more successful. Had I not discovered Crowdfund Buzz I would probably have been even more active in trying to find other ways of promoting my campaign instead of relying too much on promises that things would pick up, perhaps other services or even investing the same money in ads on social media advertising.

As some campaigns are time sensitive, a lot of people lose this time due to relying on a service which doesn't deliver, which in turn results in missed deadlines for which the funding would have been appropriated.

FlexlineDesigns
09-21-2013, 12:19 PM
Though early in my campaign, I have to agree. I opted for the $78 package. Not going to break the bank, but I have seen little to no benefit.

ashtynlaw
09-24-2013, 11:07 AM
We are working with them, now. Also went with the $78 package. He put up the link. Waiting on the press release. I'm a writer, so we'll see! I will definitely update this soon. I know it took longer than Matt said to get on their social media.

jdvos_com
09-25-2013, 02:07 AM
Thanks for the feedback guys,

Although it is not pleasant to see a trend, it does validate my own findings and I hope others will share their experiences too.
Flexline and ashtynlaw, please do keep us updated with how your experience with Crowdfund Buzz turned out.

Salvador Briggman
09-25-2013, 06:14 PM
Thanks for sharing this information. I sent out a tweet mentioning CrowdfundBuzz in the hopes they may address some of your points. Personally, I think that they could have definitely been better at communicating with you and there isn't much of an excuse if your press release was poorly written or seemed copy/pasted, as they advertise a professional press release.

Having founded CrowdfundingPR.org, a website that does PR/Marketing promotion, I can add to the discussion that it's impossible to guarantee people will take action on your campaign for my services at least (unless you choose the gold tier and hire me as a contractor). It's even difficult to pinpoint the amount of traffic I can drive because it varies based on the campaign. People are more interested in some campaigns more than others. I also have different promotional channels than CrowdFundBuzz. However, I try to do a good job of communicating this.

Based on your correspondence, I think CrowdFundBuzz should do a better job of communicating the risks or guarantees that they do or do not make in terms of views, composition of the audience, etc.

If you would like, you can leave a review of them on my Crowdfunding Directory: http://directory.crowdcrux.com/listings/crowdfund-buzz/

Sal

editorjoan
09-25-2013, 09:06 PM
I, too, tried Crowdfundbuzz in April and had zero results.

ashtynlaw
09-26-2013, 02:37 AM
We ended up getting a refund. They made deadlines they never kept. They wouldn't get back to us when we emailed about the first deadlines not being met. The press release was atrocious. They copy and pasted from my Kickstarter and then the few parts they changed had spelling and grammar errors.

jdvos_com
09-26-2013, 02:42 AM
Hi Sal

Thank you for the post, it helps a lot coming from someone who knows the system.

I agree with all your comments and would just like to add that I completely understand that its impossible to guarantee people will take action on a specific campaign. In reference to this I think the replies I got before signing up asking for a 'realistic assessment' and then receiving a reply from the founder saying that "We have been very successful with this type of promotion. We know We can help you project. " was misleading, especially considering (as you pointed out) they did not even hint at possible risks or to the fact that it is not guaranteed.

You are dead right in saying that Crowdfund Buzz should do a better job of communicating the risks and the fact that none of the results are guaranteed. Looking through the Crowdfund Buzz website now its quite striking how 'solid' the results look as there are no warnings, only descriptions of the amazing services (which in my case weren't delivered) accompanied by lists and lists of successful campaigns. This in combination with emails from the founder assuring you how much they can do for your campaign without even hinting at the chance of total failure is not in the least bit fair.

Since posting this article here and on my own website, I have gotten several messages from others who have had no results (i.e not a single donation or interaction) after signing up with Crowdfund Buzz. This suggests that its something which happens quite often and is definitely worth mentioning if you promote a service which is not at all guaranteed.

jdvos_com
09-26-2013, 02:53 AM
Sorry to hear that, as it sounds exactly like my press release.

Shortly after this post went live, I got a message from Matt Cooke offering a refund as well as a free 'Premium package' for my next campaign. Although I think this is a kind gesture for not failing to provide a service, it does not rectify the issue that many others like myself are effected in others ways than the money lost.

After investing in Crowdfund Buzz, I did expect a lot in return (as advertised!) and ended up 'losing' all the time I had to make my campaign more successful. Had I not discovered Crowdfund Buzz I would probably have been even more active in trying to find other ways of promoting my campaign, perhaps other services or even investing the same money in ads on social media advertising.

As some campaigns are time sensitive, a lot of people lose this time due to relying on a service which doesn't deliver, which in turn results in missed deadlines for which the funding would have been appropriated.

CrowdFundBuzz
09-26-2013, 07:26 PM
My name is Matt Cooke. I am the founder of CrowdFund Buzz. I am here to answer any questions for you and address some of the claims that are being made.

Not every crowdfunding campaign is going to be successful. We do everything we can to give our clients the best possible chance to attract the type of press and media coverage that can help them hit their goal. We do this at a budget most crowdfunders can afford. We understand that most people are crowdfunding because they need funds. They cannot afford to invest $3,000 on PR and Social Media. We have developed strategies that help us get our clients very good exposure and traffic at a reasonable price.

We have had issues in the past with finding quality press release writers who can deliver a high quality press release for the budget we need to hit for our clients. In the last two weeks we have completely overhauled our writing staff. This overhaul caused us to be a couple of days behind schedule for a few of our clients. Ashtyn was one of these clients. I was his account manager and I should have done a better job of communicating the delay to him.

We now produce very high quality press releases within 2 business days. Every client reviews and approves the press release before it is published. They can also request edits or revisions. Turn around time on edits is less than 4 hours.

I am happy to go over specific of the campaigns that are mentioned in this thread. I am here to answer any questions anyone has about our service.

BrittonPatrick
09-27-2013, 03:02 AM
Thanks Matt..i am glad you are here. I really appreciate your effort. good luck.

skolie
10-14-2013, 11:29 AM
Hi all. I have a campaign currently running. Thanks for this post and heads up about these businesses claiming to "boost" contributors. As crowdfunding campaigns are so varied and so focused, I think it would be near impossible to guarantee $ to anyone and they are playing a numbers game by spreading the automated blasts and getting "success" with only a few clients. FYI just got contacted by Tera Bonner of Crowdfund Buzz. Needless to say, going to pass on her offer to help.

smbueno
10-17-2013, 02:04 AM
Got a message from them as well but didn't see to be 100% trustworthy. I'm glad I didn't follow up with them. I'm sorry for your experience, but thanks for sharing.

CrowdFundBuzz
10-17-2013, 06:49 AM
Ad I have stated in another post we have helped over 1,500 crowdfunding projects in the last six months. In that time we have sent over 4.5 million people to Indiegogo projects http://www.indiegogo.com/individuals/3106064 We have sent even more people to Kickstarter projects.

If you have questions about how our service can help your project then my suggestion is to give us a call or email us. We will give you an honest assessment of your project and expected results.

Morningstar
10-18-2013, 12:20 AM
My name is Matt Cooke. I am the founder of CrowdFund Buzz. I am here to answer any questions for you and address some of the claims that are being made.

Not every crowdfunding campaign is going to be successful. We do everything we can to give our clients the best possible chance to attract the type of press and media coverage that can help them hit their goal. We do this at a budget most crowdfunders can afford. We understand that most people are crowdfunding because they need funds. They cannot afford to invest $3,000 on PR and Social Media. We have developed strategies that help us get our clients very good exposure and traffic at a reasonable price.

We have had issues in the past with finding quality press release writers who can deliver a high quality press release for the budget we need to hit for our clients. In the last two weeks we have completely overhauled our writing staff. This overhaul caused us to be a couple of days behind schedule for a few of our clients. Ashtyn was one of these clients. I was his account manager and I should have done a better job of communicating the delay to him.

We now produce very high quality press releases within 2 business days. Every client reviews and approves the press release before it is published. They can also request edits or revisions. Turn around time on edits is less than 4 hours.

I am happy to go over specific of the campaigns that are mentioned in this thread. I am here to answer any questions anyone has about our service.

Probably Crowd Fund Buzz is fairly new, like all the crowdfunding sites, so in time they may have a useful product at an affordable price. Here's the thing, I'm paying for Facebook ads at .14 and .39 cents per click. I'm paying less for a Youtube ad, but over a month I might pay out $500 for exposure that doesn't get me a dime for my Kickstarter campaign Backpacking Antarctica with a White Violin http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/371486247/backpacking-antarctica-with-a-white-violin

These crowd funding sites, even Kickstarter, which works absolutely splendid for musicians with some fans, comics, games, apps, etc. is a VERY HARD RUB when it comes to books, unless they are centered around comics or games, etc. So, we should have studied this factor before we spent three months of our lives putting together the best campaign and rewards our minds could conger up. It's a learning curve. NOW, I am very capable of teaching others how to put together an entire Kickstarter campaign, especially if they have the right product and story and TIME. I will have spent another month working 16 hour days to promote the campaign, so that is four full months of time, full time. You won't find many backers from the Kickstarter site members. Not very many people sit around all day looking through campaigns to find one they like to invest in. YOU MUST go out and find your target market, whatever that is, LIKELY months before you launch (you will get kicked off Facebook for trying to get new friends in targeted pages! so that should be done over months of time before ever launching!) I've learned these things the hard way. Twitter isn't going to let you tweet out a bunch of links back to your campaign (they will suspend you). The point is, unless you have a fan base or build one up, unless you are a fantastic game, app or comic, it may be much more difficult than you ever imagined. If you have a huge clan, huge family with generous pockets, thousands of friends who are supportive, I think Kickstarter is a fabulous platform to throw up a cool short video (mine is way too long) that took you a couple hours, put up some numbers and ask those YOU KNOW for money. Everyone SAYS they are going to help you, and they do, but when it comes to real support, like money from their hand to yours, that is a very different story. You can only depend on yourself to promote your campaign to your target market with press releases, to your fans with hope, and everything else is gravy. As far as using sites like Crowd Fund Buzz or others, give them some time on the street and they probably will be worth every penny they charge. Meantime THEY might consider promotional codes and discounts for first time users, etc. to get their customers rolling. I would sure use them for $35, just hoping to get my link out there in cyberspace in one more location. Keep smilin' - this is a new art, the crowd funding art. Good luck to all Kickstarter and other crowd funding campaigns! Morningstar of www.antarcticaeyewitness.blogspot.com

Shiva
10-18-2013, 07:45 AM
I'm not assuming that Crowdfund Buzz is acting in bad faith, but whenever there is a gold rush, there are people who think they can make more (or safer) money by selling mining tools rather than going out to mine themselves.

I advise people to stay away from companies that target project starters with services, unless they're well established at providing this service to others as well. A fulfillment service may be OK. A marketing service is probably not - don't you know what a toxic, sleazy place online marketing is?

Again, not saying Crowdfund Buzz is evil - but like most of you, they probably have rather optimistic idea of the value they provide their customers.

jainhost
10-19-2013, 02:12 AM
Thanks for sharing the information.I do hope you intend to post more of these types of information.

CrowdFundBuzz
10-19-2013, 10:13 AM
My advice is that if you look at your own personal referral numbers one week into your campaign. If you are below 500 referrals then you are going to need some type of outside help.

Do your research. Call any company on the phone you are considering using and ask them specific questions about your project. If you get non-specifc answers then keep moving.

jdvos_com
10-20-2013, 03:22 AM
Happy to see this post has generated a healthy and much needed discussion on the topic of crowd fund marketing services.

I do however feel I should point out that you (Matt Cooke - Founder of Crowdfund Buzz) personally, were the one who did not reply to any of my questions and even ignored my emails as outlined in the background story to this thread. This happened after I had paid for services from Crowdfund Buzz...

That being said, I think its in quite poor taste for you to try and salvage the Crowdfund Buzz reputation by advising people here to 'do their research' and to 'ask specific questions' as this was the bulk of my problem with my experience with your company.

To those following this thread (in reference to the post above) its also worth bringing peoples attention again to the fact that 'X' amount of referrals mean very little if the source of those referrals are not established as being relevant - once again refer to the original post.

CrowdFundBuzz
10-20-2013, 09:04 AM
jdvos_com I have personally emailed you you and apologized for the level of service you received from our company. Your experience was not typical for our company. We refunded your money and offered to promote any of your future projects at not charge. I have also asked you to email me if you had any questions or suggestions. I never heard from you. You have decided that instead that this should be a public discussion so I am here.

All of the referral sources for our traffic is tracked and listed. It is very easy to verify where are traffic originates. The traffic comes from a specific Tweet, Facebook post or the press release about the project.

Shane Liddell
10-20-2013, 03:09 PM
Hi all,

Let me start off by saying that Morningstar's post contains a lot of cold, hard, truth and is in fact very informative to those new to the crowdfunding arena.

Let's put things into perspective here. What most people don't seem to realize is that crowdfunding is a full time job for project creators (and their teams) for the duration of their campaigns. Many have unrealistic expectations, with some thinking that once the launch button is clicked, then the money will just come rolling in while they sit back watching. Many don't even have a promotional budget to start with, and in my opinion, these people should not be crowdfunding in the first place. Utilizing crowdfunding for 100% of funds needed can never be seen as a wise move. Would you approach another financial institution on this basis and expect them to carry all of the risk in your proposed project? No? Then why do people expect the 'crowd' to do the same? Does investing $98 in a marketing/promotional service = hundreds of $'s in contributions? Of course not. If it was so simple then we could say that these promotional companies (including my own) would hold the "holy grail" of crowdfunding success in their hands. Would they want to share it with anyone? Not likely!

I leave you with a quote from an e-mail we send out to all of our clients:

"The success of a campaign is dependent on several factors of which the 'crowd' decides if the project is worth backing. Please consider that if we could 100% guarantee the success of projects, we'd certainly change our business model to one which solely created crowdfunding projects of our own."

Crowdfunding never will be easy. Those who succeed will tell you that it involves a lot of planning, luck, time & effort and in some cases, sleepless nights. However, there are many "Do's" and "Don'ts" in the crowdfunding world. Knowing these is what separates the good from the bad.

Best of luck to you all!

Shane

CrowdfundingSiteReviews
10-21-2013, 12:19 PM
Below is the comment I left on CrowdfundInsider.com who reported on this thread.
Wanted to share view with the crowd:

The key to minimizing dissatisfaction amongst project creators who choose to hire a crowdfunding consultant is setting the proper expectation. There is a fine line between encouraging people to purchase consulting services and setting false expectations for what will result.
Ultimately the campaign owner must take a fair share of responsibility for the success or failure of their campaign but it is important for consulting firms to be upfront with success rate data and to level-set expectations of the services being provided.
Anyone who believes that a $99 service will guarantee the success of their project is quite frankly being a fool. Consulting and Social Media services can bring the traffic but if the campaign is not compelling, it will not happen. Regardless of the skill the consultant brings to the table.
Howard Orloff
Crowdfunding-Website-Reviews.com (http://www.crowdfunding-website-reviews.com)

CrowdFundBuzz
10-21-2013, 01:23 PM
I agree 100% with CrowdfundingSiteRevews. Here is what I wrote on the referenced thread -

"I had a few thoughts I would like to add to the discussion. The first is the type of traffic we send. All of our traffic for each of our clients is specific to that client. This means that we do not have a general or generic traffic source that we share across our client base. Traffic we send to a project either read and clicked on a Tweet about the project, a Facebook post about the project or the press release about the project. This is extremely targeted traffic. They were interested enough to click through the post and read more.

Not all projects are going to convert well. We offer conversion consulting with our $98 service but even this level of service has limits. The limits are due to the fact that we did not come up with the original idea or produce the video and other supporting content.

With that said we have started to turn away projects where we feel are not a good fit for our service. One of the first things I look at when I am assessing a project is whether or not the project manager has contributed to a project. I am seeing more and more people launch crowdfunding campaigns but they have not backed any other projects. They have not even backed their won project. This is a huge red flag to me. I have learned that this type of crowdfunder may have unreal expectations about crowdfunding and about the effect our services will have on their project.

The other thing I look for is how many referrals they have sent their project and how do their conversions look. People typically contact us a few days after they launch so the numbers are typically there. If they have sent a few hundred people to their own project but the conversions are low then a service like ours may not help. If your friends and family and your own contacts are not backing your idea then it may be difficult to get strangers to do so.

If I look at a project that has one or both of these issues then I really want to have a deeper conversation with the project manager about their goals and expectations. Our service is very effective in sending qualified and targeted traffic to a project. If the project does not click with people then there is very little we can do to help. If the project does click with people then the additional traffic is going to convert at a very high rate. We do everything possible to help out clients exceed their goals."

jdvos_com
10-24-2013, 06:49 AM
CrowdFundBuzz
In reply to your comment "I never heard from you. You have decided that instead that this should be a public discussion so I am here."

I was a bit surprised by your response as you seem to have the sequence of events confused, which might be misleading to those reading this thread.

In the minimal interaction I had as a client, I only dealt with two people in your company: The very ineffective 'account manager' and you (the founder of Crowdfund Buzz). In the end I was corresponding with you personally and you were the one to ignore me completely for weeks until my project expired. After this I posted this article on my website in response to which you contacted me the same day to offer the refund and promotion of a future project (the email you refer to above). Hence, this review is what it took to elicit a response and this was your first contact with me since my last plea for assistance while still a paying client. If it helps I will gladly post the email here you sent on 21 September in which you confirm having seen this review on my website (posted 21 September) and then offering me compensation in the form of a refund and future promotion of a project.

Based on your company's total lack of interest up until that point I had no interest in dealing with Crowdfund Buzz any further. Simply refunding me definitely does not rectify the time wasted and if it had been people in your employment who were at fault (as you implied earlier) I would have been open to discussing the issue with you, but seeing as it was you personally (the Founder) who was responsible for the poor service I received, I did not see the point in even pursuing the matter. Based on the poor service I received I also have no intention of using Crowdfund Buzz for anything in the future, even if it had been for free and therefore I had nothing further to ask you.

I hope this clarifies my reaction and if not, allow me to explain it using a simple analogy;

You pay someone to clean your home windows for a month and they never show up to do so and never answer your calls. You then place a small add in the local newspaper warning other of this scam. The window cleaners then realize that this could affect their business and they contact you to offer you your money back as well as a free month of service. Would you seriously thank them for the refund and take them up on this offer or even correspond with them further if you had already been ignored this long and knew you could not rely on them providing the service?

Perhaps someone else would be more forgiving, personally I don't appreciate businesses or people wasting my time.

Finally, you chose to reply to this thread after the fact so implying that I decided to make this a public discussion 'instead' is incorrect.

CrowdFundBuzz
10-24-2013, 09:01 AM
jdvos_com Your insistence on calling our service a scam is wrong. We did deliver the service. We can not make people back your project. That is impossible. I am sorry you were not satisfied with our service and that your project was not successful but continuing to call our service a scam is not accurate.

My offer to help you with future projects still stands. My first piece of advice is to back other projects on Indiegogo before you launch your project. Indiegogo makes it very easy to see a project manager's stats http://www.indiegogo.com/individuals/4259068

Launching a project without backing any other projects sends a very bad message. To me it says that the project manager is happy to accept help from others but has never contributed to the community.

jdvos_com
10-25-2013, 02:10 AM
Thanks for the advice, I'll keep it in mind should I ever consider using crowd funding again.

As for not backing other campaigns 'sending a bad message', keep in mind that this is a conservation initiative and that literally every penny counts. This is a non profit project and it is still ongoing and has received support from a large number of notable organisations, companies and members of the conservation community. I agree completely that it would probably have been in our interest to invest a bit in order to get more support, but seeing as this was my first go at Crowdfunding and I was less than convinced by its potential it is honestly not something I even considered (like thousands of others I'm sure). Quite a poor 'subtle' attempt at trying to discredit me though.

CrowdFundBuzz
10-25-2013, 10:00 AM
jdovs I did not mean to sound like I was tying to discredit you. I wrote the same advice here http://crowdfundingforum.com/showthread.php/7877-A-Big-Mistake-I-See-CrowdFunders-Make

I appreciate how passionate you are about your projects. I feel the same way about helping crowdfunders. I know we can work together on future successful projects. Please contact me when you are ready to start another project.

jdvos_com
10-25-2013, 10:11 AM
Thanks Matt, I appreciate it and will definitely keep in touch as I'm still coming to grips with Crowd Funding.

As with all new things I understand that a comapny like Crowdfund Buzz has its growing pains and I'm sure discussions like this one not only helps companies grow for the better, but also help users educate themselves on all facets of this new funding platform so I do appreciate you taking the time to respond.

CrowdFundBuzz
10-25-2013, 10:22 AM
This discussion has definitely helped. We have already made improvements based off of your feedback.

rappen
03-18-2014, 01:08 PM
jvdos_com and others,

let me just add my 50 cent on this whole discussion. I was searching for a marketing company to help get the word out about my campaign based on my busy schedule and that was when I found Crowdfund Buzz. Now, this company seemed legitimate because they had all these recent proof of success stories. So I was interested and because my campaign was ticking I decided to purchase their services. I chose the $149 USD package and wow it cost a lot of money, but I thought it would help me do justice. I did not make any payments at the time because I had a query. I received an email roughly 1 hour after from some fellow asking why I signed up but did not make the purchase and then I replied that I wanted further information. After that there was no response for hours.

I was a little curious why after I asked that question no response. So then I decided to change around my question and told them that I am interested in purchasing the service but am not sure which is the right package to select. Interestingly after 1 hour the person responded and told me the $149. I said thank you and I proceeded to purchase the software.

The introduction was quite pleasant I must say, and they made me feel special as a customer. There was another from my ‘consultant’ informing me of what needed changes. Those changes were made and he wrote as follows:


I’m happy to hear you made all of those changes I suggested. We’ll move ahead in promoting your campaign to the very best of our ability and help you raise as much money as possible.


I received two different emails, and one from info@crowdfundbuzz.com asking me to review the article they wrote. As I read the article I was a little startled that pretty much everything I wrote on Indiegogo was copied and pasted with a little bit of rewording. The article was also a little jumbled and made not much sense. So I reworded the article to my liking and finally it made sense, I emailed it to some persons at the abovementioned email address and they liked it and so it was sent off. I received another email informing me that once the article has been published then I would receive an email from them. It is now 4 weeks and still no official email of the articles being published. How I got a response was when I started to become very annoyed at the unresponsiveness. As a result, I sent an email to my ‘consultant’ informing me that it was week 3 and still no update about the articles that were approved. See below from me:

This is just outright sloppy. It's almost 3 weeks and still no results. Then you're going to inform me that nothing is guaranteed? So what was the invested funds in your business for, charity? That makes absolutely no sense. You guys really need to get your act together…

No updates, nothing. Not even a phone call. Just a sloppy email on no guarantee. I checked Google for roughly 3 weeks now and all I see are some approved articles on the first and second page of Google. These have been approved for over 3 weeks ago, what about the others?

My patients is running extremely low…


My ‘consultant’ informed me that there seemed to have been some miscommunication because firstly the statistics link was supposed to be sent to me. Also he informed me that my article was published on SbWire and he directed me to the link. See email as follows:

It seems there’s been some lapse in communication here. Your press release was published right after you approved it on February 27th.

You can view the press release here.

The funny thing about this is that the article was published a few days after I purchased the service in the first week and I had happened to see this in the Google’s search. Yet no email was sent to inform me as a customer of the update the entire time. So that a huge strike drawn because initially an email was sent to inform me that I would be sent an email the minute the articles were published. I was also informed by the ‘consultant’ that they don’t send email updates. Very strange because the other staff members from info@crowdfundbuzz.com informed me that they would send an update once the articles have been published.

The second strike was this, as I do share your sentiments- no results at all. Fine, I just decided to ask my ‘consultant’ on an update and I received the following email:
There’s no single answer as to why your campaign isn’t getting more action. Your press release was sent to every journalist who covers crowd funding and/or the type of project you’re doing. It’s impossible to predict what a member of the media decides to do with your press release – they can pick it up and run with it, contact you for an interview or ignore it – the decision is entirely theirs.

We also promote your press release (and your campaign itself) to our 22,000+ followers on Twitter and Facebook every day of the week. In a similar vein, we can tell the world about your project but we can’t force people to click on your press release or your crowd funding project and then make them back your campaign. That’s a decision only then can make.

I questioned, if my article was sent to every journalist how comes I am only seeing roughly 3-4 on Google for the past 3 weeks and where was the promised email about updates once the articles were published to the journalists?

Another week approached and still no result. At this time all I could reflect on is that the $149 was pretty much going to go down the drain. I got really upset, plus I noted that the traffic was dominantly from another country (I will not say it is rather embarrassing) and not the dominantly from the US and western countries, which had me concerned. So I sent another email to my ‘consultant.’ Here was a part of the reply:

On to your next point I speak with every client who approaches us with questions and concerns – just as I did with you.

From my experience and observation there are a few people from time to time who are disgruntled mainly because they don’t fully understand the crowdfunding process and all of the different variables and factors that ensue. That’s why we devote so much time and provide an abundance of resources to crowdfunders to give them every advantage possible.

I wish every crowdfunding project we promote could succeed. But they can't. If you do a little research on crowdfunding success rates you will quickly learn that more campaigns fail than succeed on Kickstarter and Indiegogo. I strongly suspect this is true of every crowdfunding platform.


Then what stood out to me in the email was that the ‘consultant’ wrote that I did not follow his instructions on the fact that I should be sharing on Facebook and Twitter with my family members and friends. At this point, absolutely nothing made sense. Firstly, I did not receive any guidelines on sharing with family and friends. Secondly, isn’t that their job??? What was the purpose of me purchasing their services in the first place? If I am going to be doing the marketing and advertising, then I could have done that on my own without squandering $149 USD. See the email below:

Here’s a second copy of my instructions to you on boosting your GoGoFactor:

1. Update your Indiegogo campaign and leave comments daily. Add additional team members if possible [We all know that is the project manager’s job].
2. Encourage people to share and refer people to your Indiegogo campaign. You can go so far as to offer free products in exchange for, say, 5 referrals that result in contributions. Maybe 10 in your case. Cost is a factor [Not making much sense here plus there was no email on this].
3. Add more pictures and/or videos to your campaign on a weekly basis. (Do you see the pattern here – keep your campaign fresh and active with new things happening all the time).[Fine no prob but I still did not receive this email initially]
4. Ask friends and family to back your campaign as much as they can. Every backer at any dollar amount helps [Again this is their job I shouldn’t be antagonizing my poor family and friends].
5. Make sure your activity levels are at their peak during week one (That’s RIGHT NOW for you!) which is a critical factor in gaining more momentum in getting your project to succeed [No problem but still didn’t receive this in the email until weeks after- sloppy, very sloppy].


Funny enough, this email about sharing to friends was never ever sent either! Here was the original email he sent to me:


Thank you for becoming a consultant-level client with us. Here is your campaign consultation.

I noticed a number of errors in grammar which is understandable. To a certain degree, this is a good thing as it gives your campaign more sincere and authentic. However, too many mistakes like these are not good.

I have re-written parts of your campaign. All you need to do is copy-and-paste my text into your campaign.

(Corrections included)

All done with the campaign re-writes and edits.

Another recommendation I need to make is that you back 8 to 10 other projects on Indiegogo. You can even back them for $1. The number of projects you have backed is listed in right under your profile picture. Some people won’t back a project when they see the project manager has not backed any projects.
To your success,


All those guidelines he provided I followed and yet I was rudely informed that I did not follow his instructions and my campaign could have been a success. Why is this company claiming to send certain emails that are nonexistent?

It begs the question, what really is the purpose of Crowdfund Buzz then? Isn’t it that they are to draw an audience on behalf of you? What were they really doing all along? The company needs to be clear from the beginning. Do you mean to tell me that the customer is able to do a much better job than the ‘professionals?’

So any way, I decided to really do my own campaigning as I believed this had gone way too far and immediately on Indiegogo I received 15 Facebook shares in less than one day and roughly 5 comments on FB expressing their interest in the campaign and wishing me the best. What was Crowdfundbuzz doing wrong then? What really is their purpose?

jvdos_com you made some essential points and I am 100% in agreement.

CrowdFundBuzz
03-18-2014, 03:01 PM
jvdos_com and others,

The introduction was quite pleasant I must say, and they made me feel special as a customer. There was another from my ‘consultant’ informing me of what needed changes. Those changes were made and he wrote as follows:


I’m happy to hear you made all of those changes I suggested. We’ll move ahead in promoting your campaign to the very best of our ability and help you raise as much money as possible.


I received two different emails, and one from info@crowdfundbuzz.com asking me to review the article they wrote. As I read the article I was a little startled that pretty much everything I wrote on Indiegogo was copied and pasted with a little bit of rewording. The article was also a little jumbled and made not much sense. So I reworded the article to my liking and finally it made sense, I emailed it to some persons at the abovementioned email address and they liked it and so it was sent off. I received another email informing me that once the article has been published then I would receive an email from them. It is now 4 weeks and still no official email of the articles being published. How I got a response was when I started to become very annoyed at the unresponsiveness. As a result, I sent an email to my ‘consultant’ informing me that it was week 3 and still no update about the articles that were approved. See below from me:

This is just outright sloppy. It's almost 3 weeks and still no results. Then you're going to inform me that nothing is guaranteed? So what was the invested funds in your business for, charity? That makes absolutely no sense. You guys really need to get your act together…

No updates, nothing. Not even a phone call. Just a sloppy email on no guarantee. I checked Google for roughly 3 weeks now and all I see are some approved articles on the first and second page of Google. These have been approved for over 3 weeks ago, what about the others?

My patients is running extremely low…


My ‘consultant’ informed me that there seemed to have been some miscommunication because firstly the statistics link was supposed to be sent to me. Also he informed me that my article was published on SbWire and he directed me to the link. See email as follows:

It seems there’s been some lapse in communication here. Your press release was published right after you approved it on February 27th.

You can view the press release here.

The funny thing about this is that the article was published a few days after I purchased the service in the first week and I had happened to see this in the Google’s search. Yet no email was sent to inform me as a customer of the update the entire time. So that a huge strike drawn because initially an email was sent to inform me that I would be sent an email the minute the articles were published. I was also informed by the ‘consultant’ that they don’t send email updates. Very strange because the other staff members from info@crowdfundbuzz.com informed me that they would send an update once the articles have been published.

The second strike was this, as I do share your sentiments- no results at all. Fine, I just decided to ask my ‘consultant’ on an update and I received the following email:
There’s no single answer as to why your campaign isn’t getting more action. Your press release was sent to every journalist who covers crowd funding and/or the type of project you’re doing. It’s impossible to predict what a member of the media decides to do with your press release – they can pick it up and run with it, contact you for an interview or ignore it – the decision is entirely theirs.

We also promote your press release (and your campaign itself) to our 22,000+ followers on Twitter and Facebook every day of the week. In a similar vein, we can tell the world about your project but we can’t force people to click on your press release or your crowd funding project and then make them back your campaign. That’s a decision only then can make.

I questioned, if my article was sent to every journalist how comes I am only seeing roughly 3-4 on Google for the past 3 weeks and where was the promised email about updates once the articles were published to the journalists?

Another week approached and still no result. At this time all I could reflect on is that the $149 was pretty much going to go down the drain. I got really upset, plus I noted that the traffic was dominantly from another country (I will not say it is rather embarrassing) and not the dominantly from the US and western countries, which had me concerned. So I sent another email to my ‘consultant.’ Here was a part of the reply:

On to your next point I speak with every client who approaches us with questions and concerns – just as I did with you.

From my experience and observation there are a few people from time to time who are disgruntled mainly because they don’t fully understand the crowdfunding process and all of the different variables and factors that ensue. That’s why we devote so much time and provide an abundance of resources to crowdfunders to give them every advantage possible.

I wish every crowdfunding project we promote could succeed. But they can't. If you do a little research on crowdfunding success rates you will quickly learn that more campaigns fail than succeed on Kickstarter and Indiegogo. I strongly suspect this is true of every crowdfunding platform.


Then what stood out to me in the email was that the ‘consultant’ wrote that I did not follow his instructions on the fact that I should be sharing on Facebook and Twitter with my family members and friends. At this point, absolutely nothing made sense. Firstly, I did not receive any guidelines on sharing with family and friends. Secondly, isn’t that their job??? What was the purpose of me purchasing their services in the first place? If I am going to be doing the marketing and advertising, then I could have done that on my own without squandering $149 USD. See the email below:

Here’s a second copy of my instructions to you on boosting your GoGoFactor:

1. Update your Indiegogo campaign and leave comments daily. Add additional team members if possible [We all know that is the project manager’s job].
2. Encourage people to share and refer people to your Indiegogo campaign. You can go so far as to offer free products in exchange for, say, 5 referrals that result in contributions. Maybe 10 in your case. Cost is a factor [Not making much sense here plus there was no email on this].
3. Add more pictures and/or videos to your campaign on a weekly basis. (Do you see the pattern here – keep your campaign fresh and active with new things happening all the time).[Fine no prob but I still did not receive this email initially]
4. Ask friends and family to back your campaign as much as they can. Every backer at any dollar amount helps [Again this is their job I shouldn’t be antagonizing my poor family and friends].
5. Make sure your activity levels are at their peak during week one (That’s RIGHT NOW for you!) which is a critical factor in gaining more momentum in getting your project to succeed [No problem but still didn’t receive this in the email until weeks after- sloppy, very sloppy].


Funny enough, this email about sharing to friends was never ever sent either! Here was the original email he sent to me:


Thank you for becoming a consultant-level client with us. Here is your campaign consultation.

I noticed a number of errors in grammar which is understandable. To a certain degree, this is a good thing as it gives your campaign more sincere and authentic. However, too many mistakes like these are not good.

I have re-written parts of your campaign. All you need to do is copy-and-paste my text into your campaign.

(Corrections included)

All done with the campaign re-writes and edits.

Another recommendation I need to make is that you back 8 to 10 other projects on Indiegogo. You can even back them for $1. The number of projects you have backed is listed in right under your profile picture. Some people won’t back a project when they see the project manager has not backed any projects.
To your success,


All those guidelines he provided I followed and yet I was rudely informed that I did not follow his instructions and my campaign could have been a success. Why is this company claiming to send certain emails that are nonexistent?

It begs the question, what really is the purpose of Crowdfund Buzz then? Isn’t it that they are to draw an audience on behalf of you? What were they really doing all along? The company needs to be clear from the beginning. Do you mean to tell me that the customer is able to do a much better job than the ‘professionals?’

So any way, I decided to really do my own campaigning as I believed this had gone way too far and immediately on Indiegogo I received 15 Facebook shares in less than one day and roughly 5 comments expressing their interest in the campaign. What was Crowdfundbuzz doing wrong then? What really is their purpose?
jvdos_com you made some essential points and I am 100% in agreement.

First and foremost the customer labeled us as rude on several occasions and we were anything but rude. That's just not how we do business.

As nicely as I can say this - the customer is not telling the whole story and there's clearly a lack of understanding of how Indiegogo and crowdfunding works.

Specifically, the customer quoted above is wondering why we don't log on to her Indiegogo account and manage her account for her in helping her boost her GoGoFactor.

She conveniently copied-and-pasted a very small portion of all the emails we exchanged. If we were to engage in full disclosure and share all of the emails exchanged over the past few weeks that post would be the largest post in the history of this forum.

When the customer refers to the term "article" I'm pretty sure she's referring to her press release. By her own admission she saw her press release appear on Google weeks ago yet claims her press release launch was delayed. Clearly this can't be the case.

We've written many blog articles intended to educate and empower crowdfunders to help make their crowdfunding campaign as successful as possible. We don't keep it a secret that crowdfunding success is not something that automatically happens because the crowdfunder hired a PR firm to promote their campaign.

To quote the first line of one of the customer's last emails to us today:

"Thanks for the long speech, but I only read a portion..."

If she had taken the time to read everything I wrote she'd know everything she'd need to know to enhance the success of her campaign.

At the beginning then in the middle of her post she shares with the public the fact she did receive the consulting she paid for, she did get the press release distributed as agreed and we have been promoting her campaign continually. At the end of her post she asks the world "It begs the question, what really is the purpose of Crowdfund Buzz then?"

She answered her own question in her own post. We provided consulting, a press release and continue to provide ongoing promotion of her Indiegogo project via social media.

We can empathize with her frustration that her campaign has not been performing as she expected and I took the time to explain the myriad of factors behind why some crowdfunding campaigns succeed while others fail. She simply doesn't want to hear it.

We all know that the failure rate of crowdfunding campaigns achieving their goal is very high. The path to success is not a straight line of taking a single action (like purchasing a $149 crowdfunding promotion and consulting package) and assuming all will be good.

Here's a quote I came across just today from Marc Zorn who just launched the newest crowdfunding platform on the block Vision Launch (http://www.visionlaunch.com):

"Crowdfunding portals are not ATM machines; you have to put effort into these projects to get successfully funded" - Marc Zorn, Vision Launch

I shared this wisdom with the customer along with this quote in an email I sent her just a few minutes ago:

“A successful campaign takes plenty of advance planning as well as constant involvement along the way to keep backers happy and new supporters joining on. A halfhearted effort could not only make a cash drive stall out, it also could do lasting damage to an entrepreneur’s standing with customers and potential investors down the road.”- Caitlin Huston, The Wall Street Journal

I also sent her a link to the full Wall Street Journal article here - http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303932504579252402009731252

And for good measure I sent her a link to a third article written by an actual crowdfunder sharing his experiences with how hard running a crowdfunding campaign can be -- http://www.anycamerawilldo.com/10-tips-to-make-crowd-funding-easy-yeah-right-2/

Instead of doing her research and acting on all the knowledge I put right in front of her she decided to come here to this forum and complain about the "sloppy" job we're doing, etc. etc.

This client clearly does not want to put the effort in to help her crowdfunding campaign to succeed and initially assumed and expected then later demanded we do more than we could possibly do get her campaign more funding.

We will continue doing the job this client paid us for and hope she takes more of an active, productive role in helping her crowdfunding project succeed.

Howard Sherman
http://www.crowdfundbuzz.com
1-(888)-983-1682
Member of the Public Relations Society of America
Follow Us on Twitter - https://twitter.com/icrowdfundbuzz
Like Us on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/CrowdFundBuzz

rappen
03-19-2014, 08:55 AM
Again Howard, that's nice and all, but still the results show for itself and of course the 'sloppy' work.


Any despite the nightmare I have encountered with the Crowdfund Buzz, I think things are starting to look bright as I have been getting consistent guidance and support for my campaign from this dynamic expert online and I may have found the key to achieving a successful campaign. If at the end of my campaign it is a success I will gladly share how others can achieve great results in their crowdfunding project.

That's just how the cookie crumbles, frustrations will arise such as my case above but we should never give up :).

Best Regards,

CrowdFundBuzz
03-19-2014, 09:31 AM
Again Howard, that's nice and all, but still the results show for itself and of course the 'sloppy' work.


Any despite the nightmare I have encountered with the Crowdfund Buzz, I think things are starting to look bright as I have been getting consistent guidance and support for my campaign from this dynamic expert online and I may have found the key to achieving a successful campaign. If at the end of my campaign it is a success I will gladly share how others can achieve great results in their crowdfunding project.

That's just how the cookie crumbles, frustrations will arise such as my case above but we should never give up :).

Best Regards,

I'm happy to hear good news from you and totally agree that no one should ever give up.

But why did you totally ignore, skip over and otherwise refuse to address any and every point I made in my reply to your post?

Howard Sherman
http://www.crowdfundbuzz.com
1-(888)-983-1682
Member of the Public Relations Society of America
Follow Us on Twitter - https://twitter.com/icrowdfundbuzz
Like Us on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/CrowdFundBuzz

dansiegel
03-31-2014, 01:19 AM
Yikes guys just want to say a few things:

1- it really sucks to see so many scams in this space. A friend of mine had a majorly successful Kickstarter campaign in spite of getting scammed by one of these "we'll blast 15,000 journalists for you, it'll change your life" spammers. Seeing his experience motivated me and my co-founder to take a deeper look at what was going on in this space and how to fix it.

2- getting press is not based on wishful thinking; big hopes; or mega email lists. It's based on a focused strategy (knowing your pitch angles and finding the journalists/bloggers most relevant to them), data-driven expectations of conversion, a diversified approach (some big-fish outlets plus lots of small guys), and lots of hustle (emailing, calling, following up, repeat).

3- I wish you guys all the best and the cliched adage just never seems to fail: if it sounds too good to be true...it probably is. Heck, it definitely is.

Dan, co-founder of Glassy Media

CrowdfundBuzz scam review
06-09-2014, 11:02 PM
Wow I really wish I saw this CrowdfundBuzz review scam report before I enlisted in their service a couple weeks ago. I emailed the guy over at Crowdfundbuzz.com regarding their crowdfunding pr press release service and what guarantees they offered. They gave me some great promises about their service and the results they could get me BEFORE I signed on with them.

I pretty much had the same experience with the OP, they gave me some BS referrals probably from China that did not contribute. I don't even know if they did a Crowdfund Buzz press release because I couldn't see my project pop up ANYWHERE on the web on any news and medi, and when I asked them to see my press release they would not email me back.. Crowdfundbuzz is a total scam. They never returned my emails or my phone calls even when I emailed their main email info@crowdfundbuzz.com or at http://crowdfundbuzz.com/ Once you pay they just take your money and vanish. I can't believe these guys are still in business, especially looking around online and seeing this thread. Also I love their rebutals on the forum here.

Also Check out this Crowdfundbuzz review in a ripoff report, they name everything wrong in the Crowdfundbuzz.com ripoff report. Or you can see it by looking up Crowdfund buzz reviews.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/crowdfund-buzz/matawan-new-jersey-07747/crowdfund-buzz-crowd-fund-buzz-crowdfundbuzz-crowdfundbuzzcom-crowdfund-buzz-worst-crow-1152789

These guys at Crowdfundbuzz are the true characteristic of a online scammer, They are the most scammy crowdfund PR service for crowdfunding campaigns ever. If you have a Kickstarter or Indiegogo project then STAY AWAY FROM Crowdfund buzz - Crowdfundbuzz - Crowdfundbuzz.com full of scammers! Ripoff Report

Sarah H
06-13-2014, 09:13 PM
I’m glad im not the only one who is furious about the Crowdfundbuzz crowdfunding pr scam service. Crowdfund Buzz is the worst PR crowdfunding company out there, I did a crowdfund buzz review andI posted a Ripoff Report about my Crowdfundbuzz.com review online but they paid off Ripoffreport.com to remove my Ripoff Report I posted about Crowdfundbuzz, that just shows much Crowdfund buzz truly cares about their reputation. They’ll just pay people off to save face. I got burned by Crowdfundbuzz back in December of last year with my Indiegogo campaign. I had already raised a good amount of funds from my own social networks and my team’s social networks so enlisted in their crowdfunding pr service. Crowdfund Buzz gave us no traffic at all on our campaign, which obviously means no contributions. Our crowdfunding project didn’t get featured on any blogs or news sites like they promised me either. Crowdfund buzz was eager to take my payment, but Crowdfundbuzz was not very eager about delivering a product to actually help my Indiegogo crowdfunding campaign by delivering their crowdfunding pr press release service. I am not sure how they removed my Crowdfundbuzz Ripoff Reports but they did, but don’t let their lack of reports fool you they’re a total scam with a bad reputation within the crowdfunding community, they only scam newcomers who haven’t heard the horror stories. I am advising you all from my Crowdfundbuzz review that it is a total scam service, the team at Crowdfund buzz is the worst crowdfunding press release service to use, they’re are a lot of scammers on the net and they’re one of the top ones to look out for. My advice and my Crowdfund buzz review Avoid Crowdfundbuzz and Crowdfund Buzz and http://crowdfundbuzz.com/ for promoting a crowdfunding project.

RAW
06-17-2014, 12:43 PM
Sarah

They make a great sales pitch but I share enormous disappointment.

In my case it cost me $200

I wish I had read this as well.

A scam or just incompetence? I don't know but the results are not what I paid for. And certainly not what was promised.

They promised to 'hold my hand through the whole process' but they don't even hold the phone.

Our project has not received a single contribution from their efforts. The press release never saw more than one distribution on an obscure website.

The press release they wrote was garbage.

We are http://igg.me/at/EmployThis/x

Robin A West.

Johnathan P
06-26-2014, 08:24 PM
Just like the others I wish I saw this post before I purchased my crowdfundbuzz pr package for my project. I signed up with Crowdfundbuzz around 2 weeks ago for my Kickstarter campaign launching my new fashion line. I too didn’t see these reports until today and I would have to agree with everyone else on this thread and their terrible crowdfunding experience with crowdfundbuzz.

I first gave them a call after finding them on google, it sounded like it came from some call center because the guy I was talking to didn’t really know too much about crowdfunding in general and just kept repeating a script. So Crowdfundbuzz didn’t actually ever talk to me, just a guy that was paid to answer the phones and kept telling me to go to the website and email crowdfund buzz to get more info.

I finally emailed them and they got back to me after a couple days and then I signed up for the crowdfund buzz ‘Plus’ second level service package.

Crowdfundbuzz said the wrote my press release and emailed it to thousands of journalists and media outlet etc etc but they wouldn’t even show me a copy of the press release for me to look over, edit, or to even confirm they wrote it. I received no replies to my questions after I purchased their crowdfunding pr package on the crowdfundbuzz website.

To keep a long story short, crowd fund buzz is a non-responsive, scammy PR service. Even if they did send a press release, it got no traction at all from the press release they did send out, it was worthless and they sent it out to super generic media contacts who obviously have crowdfundbuzz marked as spam. This is not a pr service, the crowdfundbuzz service does not help crowdfunders get exposure across the web, I warn the rest of you who stumbled upon crowdfundbuzz.com to do your research first! Don’t end up like me and the rest of the people posting on here.

I’m going to contact them today to start getting a refund, but from what I’ve seen from the posts on here and the Crowdfundbuzz ripoff report It sounds like they don’t like to give money back.. wish me luck!

I’ll keep you all posted!

-Johnathan

Leanne Summers
06-27-2014, 09:05 PM
I too am a Crowdfundbuzz scam victim, I paid for their top package after I checked out their website. I needed pr for my Indiegogo campaign because once I launched I had no outside support coming in so I was convinced that I needed outside supporters if I wanted to reach my funding goal. I had a reasonable goal of $2,500 and I thought investing would be the best, crowdfundbuzz seemed the most legit at the time, but I have been seeing a lot of scam reports popping up all over the web about these guys. Crowdfundbuzz gave me the press release that they wrote but it was full of spelling errors, run on sentences and they had no idea about our project and what angle we were going for, to be honest I think Crowdfundbuzz had some foreign guy or something write it, it was just that bad.

I am really disappointed in their approach to crowdfunders, they paint themselves as the leading crowdfunding pioneers for getting pr. So many people depend on this kind of promotion but in all reality, generic pr and press releases are dead, especially for people with crowdfunding campaigns. Crowdfundbuzz has been around for about a year and they’ve got some good search rankings on google for press releases for crowdfunding campaigns, that’s how I found them. But in actually delivering a good product they are severely lacking, and this is causing a lot of people online to start getting angry and posting their experiences. I heard that they even have paid ripoff report.com to remove their negative reviews so they would hide their true presence online.

Typical internet scammers in action. This thread has a great post title to explain how to approach these guys. Beware Crowdfundbuzz scam

thetimeisnow
07-19-2014, 01:38 PM
I am so glad you posted this article. I just mentioned that I spoke with this company yesterday in another thread and they we on the phone with me for a half hour. Well I was only going to spend $149 and I thought how do they make money if you spend that much time with one customer. They never tried to even upsell me.

colinng
07-21-2014, 02:28 AM
Thanks for your info! I used their service too and it didn't help! I am so regret I cannot see your post before using their service!

kerrymhickman
07-23-2014, 01:01 PM
I have also tried this with no success :(

BadAttitudeFilms
08-04-2014, 02:38 AM
If this 'crowdfund buzz' is scam, is there something similar that is not?

bluecollarfunding
08-05-2014, 09:43 AM
I fully think that if someone is seeking funding then it is up to them to ask for it in the order of self promotion. I do not agree with being charged for a listing. Of course I realize that lots of money is spent on software and scripts for these sites and there is money to be made however it reminds me of having to give someone 100 dollars to help me reduce a 1000 dollar debt by 200 dollars that I have no money to pay to start with. I'm broke, can I afford 100 dollars for a possible scam?

lauriellen
08-05-2014, 10:11 PM
It was interesting to skim this thread and see both issues by customers and responses by the vendor. I don't see that very often. Not sure what to think but I'm glad it's out there.

CrowdFundBuzz
08-07-2014, 08:17 PM
Wow I really wish I saw this CrowdfundBuzz review scam report before I enlisted in their service a couple weeks ago. I emailed the guy over at Crowdfundbuzz.com regarding their crowdfunding pr press release service and what guarantees they offered. They gave me some great promises about their service and the results they could get me BEFORE I signed on with them.

I pretty much had the same experience with the OP, they gave me some BS referrals probably from China that did not contribute. I don't even know if they did a Crowdfund Buzz press release because I couldn't see my project pop up ANYWHERE on the web on any news and medi, and when I asked them to see my press release they would not email me back.. Crowdfundbuzz is a total scam. They never returned my emails or my phone calls even when I emailed their main email info@crowdfundbuzz.com or at http://crowdfundbuzz.com/ Once you pay they just take your money and vanish. I can't believe these guys are still in business, especially looking around online and seeing this thread. Also I love their rebutals on the forum here.

Also Check out this Crowdfundbuzz review in a ripoff report, they name everything wrong in the Crowdfundbuzz.com ripoff report. Or you can see it by looking up Crowdfund buzz reviews.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/crowdfund-buzz/matawan-new-jersey-07747/crowdfund-buzz-crowd-fund-buzz-crowdfundbuzz-crowdfundbuzzcom-crowdfund-buzz-worst-crow-1152789

These guys at Crowdfundbuzz are the true characteristic of a online scammer, They are the most scammy crowdfund PR service for crowdfunding campaigns ever. If you have a Kickstarter or Indiegogo project then STAY AWAY FROM Crowdfund buzz - Crowdfundbuzz - Crowdfundbuzz.com full of scammers! Ripoff Report

The first question that comes to my mind is -- Why is your forum name here "CrowdfundBuzz scam review"? Could it be you chose that name to bait the search engines in directing people to your post?

Why didn't you pick the name "Bob" or "Carl Crowdfunder" or "Suzie" or "Mike" or "California Crowfunding" or any other name in the world? Why those very strategic keywords that have just one purpose; search engine bait to lure in the search engines to rank your post higher based on the forum name you chose.

You know, that reminds me of the structure of the rip off report you mentioned. In my rebuttals to that rip off report I observed the same fascinating trend of SEO (Search Engine Optimization) tactics in using every possible negative keyword which can have just one possible goal; to reach out to people who use those negative keywords and then once they do - load up the Internet with a bunch of posts that have no basis in fact and containing a barrage of complaints that cannot be substantiated or proven in any way at all.

Imagine that.

Except we responded to the Rip Off Report challenging the accuser to step forward with any sort of proof or documentation to back up their claim.

There has been no response from the accuser.

We are diligent in returning every phone call and responding to every email without fail. Since I started my tenure with Crowdfund Buzz back in November 2013 there hasn't been a single instance of a client not being properly replied to in a timely manner on my watch.

If you would be so kind as to tell me your name or the name of your crowdfunding project I'll be happy to publicly publish all records and communications we have on file so the public can fairly judge both sides of the story based on the evidence provided. I'll be sure to protect your privacy, of course.

The complainant in the rip off report did not step up and provide even a shred of proof to back up his claims. Can you? I suspect you won't because you can't. That's because I am fairly certain you're not a customer at all but more likely a competitor trying to drag our good name through the mud since you don't have a reputation or a track record you can stand on by yourself.

Prove me wrong. Post your proof here and let the world see it.

We've served over 2,000 clients since March 2013 and wouldn't still be in business if we simply pocketed people's money and didn't deliver on everything we promised and ignored all client communications.

Please step up and share any and all proof to back up your complaint so the people can judge for themselves - fairly.

Howard Sherman
Crowdfundbuzz.com

CrowdFundBuzz
08-07-2014, 08:25 PM
I’m glad im not the only one who is furious about the Crowdfundbuzz crowdfunding pr scam service. Crowdfund Buzz is the worst PR crowdfunding company out there, I did a crowdfund buzz review andI posted a Ripoff Report about my Crowdfundbuzz.com review online but they paid off Ripoffreport.com to remove my Ripoff Report I posted about Crowdfundbuzz, that just shows much Crowdfund buzz truly cares about their reputation. They’ll just pay people off to save face. I got burned by Crowdfundbuzz back in December of last year with my Indiegogo campaign. I had already raised a good amount of funds from my own social networks and my team’s social networks so enlisted in their crowdfunding pr service. Crowdfund Buzz gave us no traffic at all on our campaign, which obviously means no contributions. Our crowdfunding project didn’t get featured on any blogs or news sites like they promised me either. Crowdfund buzz was eager to take my payment, but Crowdfundbuzz was not very eager about delivering a product to actually help my Indiegogo crowdfunding campaign by delivering their crowdfunding pr press release service. I am not sure how they removed my Crowdfundbuzz Ripoff Reports but they did, but don’t let their lack of reports fool you they’re a total scam with a bad reputation within the crowdfunding community, they only scam newcomers who haven’t heard the horror stories. I am advising you all from my Crowdfundbuzz review that it is a total scam service, the team at Crowdfund buzz is the worst crowdfunding press release service to use, they’re are a lot of scammers on the net and they’re one of the top ones to look out for. My advice and my Crowdfund buzz review Avoid Crowdfundbuzz and Crowdfund Buzz and http://crowdfundbuzz.com/ for promoting a crowdfunding project.

Wow where do I start? Since a negative rip off report is up there to this very day we couldn't possibly have paid off anybody, could we?

As before, can you give me your name or the name of your campaign so I can pull up your records and share them with the public so the people reading this forum can accurately judge your complaint for themselves?

I'd especially like to see the written text where we promised you - or anyone else - would be featured on blogs or news websites. And also I'd like to see your copy of your traffic reports so everyone can compare them with our records and see the facts for themselves.

I'd also like to see any possible proof to back up your claim we paid anybody off at all.

You've made many serious allegations against my company. Can you back any of them up with any kind of documentation at all?

If so please post it so everyone can see this material and judge for themselves.

Howard Sherman
Crowdfund Buzz

CrowdFundBuzz
08-07-2014, 08:30 PM
Sarah

They make a great sales pitch but I share enormous disappointment.

In my case it cost me $200

I wish I had read this as well.

A scam or just incompetence? I don't know but the results are not what I paid for. And certainly not what was promised.

They promised to 'hold my hand through the whole process' but they don't even hold the phone.

Our project has not received a single contribution from their efforts. The press release never saw more than one distribution on an obscure website.

The press release they wrote was garbage.

We are http://igg.me/at/EmployThis/x

Robin A West.

I'm sorry you didn't get the result you were seeking but please know we did everything we could to help you. I personally consulted with you on the phone and via email in helping you restructure and rewrite your Indiegogo project to make it the best it could be.

I can understand your frustration and wish you had done better. At the same time, we all need to realize the success rate for crowdfunding campaigns on the whole is hovering somewhere near 40%.

People back crowdfunding campaigns they like and/or believe in.

Slava Rubin, the co-founder of Indiegogo described this notion perfectly:

“2013 was a banner year for crowdfunding as we saw the world grow increasingly comfortable voting with their dollar to fund what matters to them."

Every crowdfunding campaign is a ballot open to a vote. We can bring people to a crowdfunding campaign but the people themselves are the ones who decide whether or not they will back the crowdfunding project.

We have no control over what the public decides to do.

Howard Sherman
Crowdfundbuzz.com

CrowdFundBuzz
08-07-2014, 09:04 PM
I am so glad you posted this article. I just mentioned that I spoke with this company yesterday in another thread and they we on the phone with me for a half hour. Well I was only going to spend $149 and I thought how do they make money if you spend that much time with one customer. They never tried to even upsell me.

I loved your post. It's a breath of fresh air where honesty is concerned.

We never upsell. We carefully review every campaign and suggest the crowdfunding promotion package we feel is best for each individual crowdfunding campaign.

You mentioned $149 which is our Plus package. Since nobody tried to upsell you to our higher-priced Consultant package at $299 it would be fair to say you did an excellent job in constructing your crowdfunding campaign making consulting unnecessary.

Would you have felt better if we tried to upsell you to spend twice as much money for a service you didn't need for no good reason? If anything, that puts us into the category of being antiscammers.

All kidding aside we couldn't possibly try and sell you a higher priced service you didn't need or couldn't benefit from.

And would you have preferred we rushed you off the phone as soon as possible instead of giving you all the time you needed to make an informed decision?

Howard Sherman
CrowdfundBuzz.Com

CrowdFundBuzz
08-07-2014, 09:07 PM
I too am a Crowdfundbuzz scam victim, I paid for their top package after I checked out their website. I needed pr for my Indiegogo campaign because once I launched I had no outside support coming in so I was convinced that I needed outside supporters if I wanted to reach my funding goal. I had a reasonable goal of $2,500 and I thought investing would be the best, crowdfundbuzz seemed the most legit at the time, but I have been seeing a lot of scam reports popping up all over the web about these guys. Crowdfundbuzz gave me the press release that they wrote but it was full of spelling errors, run on sentences and they had no idea about our project and what angle we were going for, to be honest I think Crowdfundbuzz had some foreign guy or something write it, it was just that bad.

I am really disappointed in their approach to crowdfunders, they paint themselves as the leading crowdfunding pioneers for getting pr. So many people depend on this kind of promotion but in all reality, generic pr and press releases are dead, especially for people with crowdfunding campaigns. Crowdfundbuzz has been around for about a year and they’ve got some good search rankings on google for press releases for crowdfunding campaigns, that’s how I found them. But in actually delivering a good product they are severely lacking, and this is causing a lot of people online to start getting angry and posting their experiences. I heard that they even have paid ripoff report.com to remove their negative reviews so they would hide their true presence online.

Typical internet scammers in action. This thread has a great post title to explain how to approach these guys. Beware Crowdfundbuzz scam

Leanne,

I might sound like a broken record repeating the same thing here over and over but can you provide any details at all about your campaign? Can you share a link to it with us?

You claimed you paid for our top package - the Consultant package - can you copy all of the emails we exchanged? You have my permission.

Also - please post a link to your press release so everyone can fairly inspect the basis of your claim regarding the quality of your press release for themselves.

And where did you hear we paid Ripoff Report to remove a negative review? Could it be this very forum?

And if not this forum please tell everyone where you heard this news. Please share that link with us too.

And then please go on and explain why a negative rip off report is still on the Internet if we paid them off to remove it -- as you claim.

Howard Sherman
Crowdfund Buzz

CrowdFundBuzz
08-07-2014, 09:38 PM
Just like the others I wish I saw this post before I purchased my crowdfundbuzz pr package for my project. I signed up with Crowdfundbuzz around 2 weeks ago for my Kickstarter campaign launching my new fashion line. I too didn’t see these reports until today and I would have to agree with everyone else on this thread and their terrible crowdfunding experience with crowdfundbuzz.

I first gave them a call after finding them on google, it sounded like it came from some call center because the guy I was talking to didn’t really know too much about crowdfunding in general and just kept repeating a script. So Crowdfundbuzz didn’t actually ever talk to me, just a guy that was paid to answer the phones and kept telling me to go to the website and email crowdfund buzz to get more info.

I finally emailed them and they got back to me after a couple days and then I signed up for the crowdfund buzz ‘Plus’ second level service package.

Crowdfundbuzz said the wrote my press release and emailed it to thousands of journalists and media outlet etc etc but they wouldn’t even show me a copy of the press release for me to look over, edit, or to even confirm they wrote it. I received no replies to my questions after I purchased their crowdfunding pr package on the crowdfundbuzz website.

To keep a long story short, crowd fund buzz is a non-responsive, scammy PR service. Even if they did send a press release, it got no traction at all from the press release they did send out, it was worthless and they sent it out to super generic media contacts who obviously have crowdfundbuzz marked as spam. This is not a pr service, the crowdfundbuzz service does not help crowdfunders get exposure across the web, I warn the rest of you who stumbled upon crowdfundbuzz.com to do your research first! Don’t end up like me and the rest of the people posting on here.

I’m going to contact them today to start getting a refund, but from what I’ve seen from the posts on here and the Crowdfundbuzz ripoff report It sounds like they don’t like to give money back.. wish me luck!

I’ll keep you all posted!

-Johnathan

Jonathan,

Can you share the name of your campaign with us so we can all objectively review the history together? I'll be happy to provide full disclosure of all the activity we've devoted to your crowdfunding campaign. Just let me know your campaign's name and I'll be happy to pull all the records and post them -- protecting your identity, of course.


How about a link to the press release in question?

You see, we haven't had a single refund request in June and more to the point, not a single press release is published without the client's review and consent. Also, the complaint you're making about sending press releases to PR contacts of any kind is not based in reality.

Actually, we put it out there for the whole world to see that we in fact DON'T distribute press releases the way you described.

Anyone interested in the facts of the matter can review our description of services here - http://crowdfundbuzz.com/description-of-services/

And also read a crowdfunding blog post on our website describing the press release process in greater detail here - http://crowdfundbuzz.com/promoting-crowdfunding-campaigns-with-press-releases/

We don't use any individual media contacts for any client; all press releases are submitted to newswires.

Can you explain how your accusations fit in with what we've been telling the public about our press release since last year?

And - again - please share with all of us the link to your press release so the public can judge for themselves.

Howard Sherman
CrowdfundBuzz.Com

Ed Blaze
08-08-2014, 12:50 AM
Great article this helps a lot, too many scams outthere

Justin Pry
08-08-2014, 01:18 AM
Who to believe?

RAW
08-08-2014, 06:33 AM
Who to believe?

Interesting question, mostly because the emotions.

It should be easy to figure out.

Johnathan & Leanne both complain about the overall service.


Joanne has a legitimate statement "Crowdfundbuzz gave me the press release that they wrote but it was full of spelling errors, run on sentences and they had no idea about our project and what angle we were going for..,"

Jonathan says: "Crowdfundbuzz said the wrote my press release and emailed it to thousands of journalists and media outlet etc etc but they wouldn’t even show me a copy of the press release for me to look over, edit, or to even confirm they wrote it."

Howard does not address the claims, but in general says Johnathan didn't understand the service they provide and he doesn't even know who his clients (Leanne) are.

Understanding this faux dilemma is simple: It is the responsibility of the person speaking to be sure the message is understood correctly. If Johnathan didn't understand as do myself and many others in this thread,then Howard has a problem. The problem is amplified by the fact that Crowdfundbuzz publishes itself as a PR firm. PR is defined as communications experts.

Not arbitrating, but simply commenting on the dialog.

From firsthand experience I know Crowdfundbuzz (Howard Sherman) does make a lot of promises. The Press Release they did for me was done by someone who was inexperienced in creating press releases. And the promise of 'hand-holding throughout the entire process' was vapor-service. It didn't even come close to a reality.

For myself getting a refund won't make me whole so it is moot. Also the effort to collect would cost more than what I gave Crowdfundbuzz, so again moot. For Howard to say "we have had no requests for refund" is really, REALLY poor PR.

So you asked the question who to believe? Finding an answer is simple: read the thread and decide based on the overall list of complaints and responses.

RAW

CrowdFundBuzz
08-08-2014, 10:06 AM
Actually I did address the claims Jonathan - and everyone else - made.

Jonathan made very specific accusations about my firm. This wasn't a matter of confusion; he stated that we emailed his press release to thousands of journalists. The simple fact is -- we don't do that. I then went ahead and documented for all to see how we actually distribute press releases citing two public web pages on our website which clearly explains the process.

I asked Jonathan to reconcile what he claims we did in light of the facts of what we actually do.

I have addressed each and every accusation across several posts and stick to a single theme -- back up what you're saying.

If you re-read all of these recent posts - and my responses to them - a pattern will become very clear.

Anyone can say absolutely anything. What makes a statement stick are the facts of the matter that substantiate such claims.

As to poor PR you are quoting me out of context. I encourage everyone to re-read Jonathan's post and my reply. Jonathan specifically mentioned seeking a refund when he made his post on this forum at the end of June. I replied to that. That's not poor PR - that's trying to have a conversation with someone that's made a lot of accusations that have no basis in fact. All I'm asking for is a single particle of proof to back up his claims and everyone else's.

As to your specific issues I made it clear that I would be there for you at any and every point in time whenever you needed me, wanted my advice or sought my wisdom on every given topic or question. And I'll say it again - we did everything we could to help you hit your goal and we're sorry that didn't happen. I wish every crowdfunding campaign we work on succeeds but that's simply not the way crowdfunding works.

I agree with you when you say that who to believe will come down to reading the entire thread - every post and every reply - and weigh the facts presented.

Howard Sherman
crowdfundbuzz.com

colinng
08-09-2014, 02:02 AM
Who to believe?

For their press release service, there is another thread to give your another example: http://crowdfundingforum.com/showthread.php/11418-Bad-experience-of-using-crowfundbuzz-crowd-funding-marketing-service

Mwiningham
08-11-2014, 06:44 PM
I've been wondering about all these crowdfunding boosters. I have been quite skeptic to begin with and this has warned me off of at least this one. Thanks.

AprilStart
08-16-2014, 07:22 PM
I tried a similar service when I first launched my crow fund campaign however, it was not nearly as expensive (thank godness!) because it was also a scam and yielded no results. I'm sorry you had to experience this, but appreciate you sharing your experience with others.

Verbalized
08-17-2014, 06:04 PM
I'm looking for ways to spread the word about our Kickstarter campaign and I'm wondering if anyone has had experiences since these changes were made?

Dremico Evans
08-21-2014, 10:35 PM
I have received two offers. from 2 groups. One seems to good to be true and the other seemed strange. They could be legit offers, but because I have never been offered views for money, I felt it was sketchy. Also I may have tried one of the services, but being as poor as I am now, I couldn't afford it. Where there's a big market there will always be scamers.

DMan
09-03-2014, 06:00 AM
Great article this helps a lot, too many scams outthere

We definitely need to watch out :)

loraine
09-03-2014, 01:25 PM
There seems to be a lot of PR type organizations out there, and I have a feeling a lot of them are more or less like this... Not that I know too much about it, I just get the feeling. We've had a few people in the first day of our campaign send us spammy sort of messages trying to buy their PR packages and whatever else. Not so sure about that.

CrowdFundBuzz
09-03-2014, 04:52 PM
One big difference between a true PR company dedicated to its clients and a fly-by-night outfit is response.

While we're not happy with (or indeed agree with) everything said in this forum we did pay close attention to every word.

To that end we have greatly improved the quality of our press releases by sticking with a professional copywriter with years of experience - me. This will be the third time we changed press release writers in the last year and a half in response to concerns about the quality of our work.

People are loving our press releases now. Don't take my word for it. Read all about it here - http://crowdfundbuzz.com/testimonials/

The three comments on the very top were all sent to us in just the past week.

We also added direct media outreach services in addition to the newswire submission services we already provide to give our clients an even greater potential for exposure.

I can totally understand how hard it must be in deciding which way to turn, which crowdfunding PR firm to use - if any of at all.

I hope this ongoing dialog clears the air of all the smoke making things a little clearer for everybody.

Howard Sherman
http://www.crowdfundbuzz.com
1-(888)-983-1682
Member of the Public Relations Society of America
Follow Us on Twitter - https://twitter.com/icrowdfundbuzz
Like Us on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/CrowdFundBuzz

Damien White
09-03-2014, 10:06 PM
It seems that a majority of these services simply advertise to people who aren't even remotely interested in what's being promoted. I'll keep my money and do it myself.

CrowdFundBuzz
09-04-2014, 02:20 PM
Damien,

That's why Home Depot and Lowe's do so well. People like you who prefer a DIY (Do It Yourself) approach can shop alongside professional contractors.

The thing is - most DIY people end up finding out they should leave the job in question to the professionals. That's because professionals can get better results far faster than someone choosing to go it alone.

Howard Sherman
http://www.crowdfundbuzz.com
1-(888)-983-1682
Member of the Public Relations Society of America
Follow Us on Twitter - https://twitter.com/icrowdfundbuzz
Like Us on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/CrowdFundBuzz

BackOrder
09-04-2014, 03:29 PM
Hi CrowdFundBuzz,

You are not different from us in which we all seek success in what we do.

The problem stems from your business model. Your company offers amazingly low prices compared to (non-crowd funding) PR firm but the comparative is unfair because people and companies hiring such PR firms have the money to do so.

Consequently, your current business model is praying on people who are at the mercy of strangers to fund their projects. They may not have any money in their pocket. Crowd funding PR firms offer services that has no guarantees.

You become the bad guy regardless of your performances.

Kickstarter had the foresight to offer a different business model. They only charge successful campaigns. Someone can have a campaign every month and fail, fully use their services without paying a single penny. Guess what? Kickstarter makes a lot o f money.

By using their business model, you will show your support to us rather than praying on our hopes. Our successes become your successes and your successes become our successes.

I will use a PR firm that will offer their services and be paid only if my campaign is successful. Quick survey: Who else here would use paid-only-on-success PR services?

Best regards,
Ian.

CrowdFundBuzz
09-04-2014, 04:35 PM
Hi CrowdFundBuzz,

You are not different from us in which we all seek success in what we do.

The problem stems from your business model. Your company offers amazingly low prices compared to (non-crowd funding) PR firm but the comparative is unfair because people and companies hiring such PR firms have the money to do so.

Consequently, your current business model is praying on people who are at the mercy of strangers to fund their projects. They may not have any money in their pocket. Crowd funding PR firms offer services that has no guarantees.

You become the bad guy regardless of your performances.

Kickstarter had the foresight to offer a different business model. They only charge successful campaigns. Someone can have a campaign every month and fail, fully use their services without paying a single penny. Guess what? Kickstarter makes a lot o f money.

By using their business model, you will show your support to us rather than praying on our hopes. Our successes become your successes and your successes become our successes.

I will use a PR firm that will offer their services and be paid only if my campaign is successful. Quick survey: Who else here would use paid-only-on-success PR services?

Best regards,
Ian.

Ian,

Amazing low prices? Our prices are 200-300% more than they were this same time last year reflecting the service improvements we've made to help crowdfunding campaigns succeed.

I wish you luck in finding a PR firm that will work for free with no assurance of payment for the work they've done.

The point you raised is something I blogged about some time back. Everyone should read this article and get a clearer understanding of exactly how PR and advertising works -- be it for crowdfunding or anything else: http://crowdfundbuzz.com/crowdfunding-campaign-promotion-100-guarantee/

Howard Sherman
http://www.crowdfundbuzz.com
1-(888)-983-1682
Member of the Public Relations Society of America
Follow Us on Twitter - https://twitter.com/icrowdfundbuzz
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BackOrder
09-04-2014, 05:14 PM
Ian,

Amazing low prices? Our prices are 200-300% more than they were this same time last year reflecting the service improvements we've made to help crowdfunding campaigns succeed.

I wish you luck in finding a PR firm that will work for free with no assurance of payment for the work they've done.

The point you raised is something I blogged about some time back. Everyone should read this article and get a clearer understanding of exactly how PR and advertising works -- be it for crowdfunding or anything else: http://crowdfundbuzz.com/crowdfunding-campaign-promotion-100-guarantee/

I am your demographics. I need PR services but the services offered by crowd funding PR firms are not interesting to me. Why so much hostility? My feedback is your market research... for free!

Kickstarter had an approval process before. A crowd funding PR firm could offer a paid-only-on-success PR services to campaigns that they believe in. While such service is unavailable now, it might be available later. Are you gonna be the market leader and offer it first?

Kickstarter takes the risk in supporting us. Why can't you? Nobody has any guarantees in the crowd funding model but it's business in good faith with mutually beneficial arrangement.

Only PR firms require money upfront.

Shane Liddell
09-04-2014, 06:19 PM
I am your demographics. I need PR services but the services offered by crowd funding PR firms are not interesting to me. Why so much hostility? My feedback is your market research... for free!

Kickstarter had an approval process before. A crowd funding PR firm could offer a paid-only-on-success PR services to campaigns that they believe in. While such service is unavailable now, it might be available later. Are you gonna be the market leader and offer it first?

Kickstarter takes the risk in supporting us. Why can't you? Nobody has any guarantees in the crowd funding model but it's business in good faith with mutually beneficial arrangement.

Only PR firms require money upfront.

BOOKORDER
I'm sure everybody "would use paid-only-on-success PR services" if they were given the opportunity.

You seem to be misunderstanding the difference between a platform like Kickstarter and a crowdfunding support service company. Kickstarter have no capital outlay when a project is posted on their platform and yes, they have their overheads but that is where it stops. Whereas a support service company such as ours has the cost of PR writing and effective press distribution (sometimes as high as $499 per Press release distribution (www.prweb.com)).

Considering the above and the many variables within crowdfunding success, I'm sure you wouldn't operate a pay only on success business either. The real question here is " Why should a Crowdfunding support company carry all the risk for a project/campaign that only the 'crowd' decides if it's worthy of support?" In our case we offer 'best practice' support, the rest is up to the audience we show campaigns to.

CrowdFundBuzz
09-05-2014, 03:19 PM
What hostility? We are indeed a PR firm who seeks fees for the services provided just like every other company who provides services to clients.

Ask the NY Times if they'll run advertising without any upfront payment. Ask Google to do the same. Or any of of the NYC PR firms listed here:

http://www.odwyerpr.com/pr_firm_rankings/newyork.htm

Howard Sherman

Joris&Stephanie
09-06-2014, 08:33 AM
Sorry to hear about your bad experience! Hopefully you'll get the necessary fundings elsewhere!

CrowdFundBuzz
09-08-2014, 03:33 PM
BOOKORDER
I'm sure everybody "would use paid-only-on-success PR services" if they were given the opportunity.

You seem to be misunderstanding the difference between a platform like Kickstarter and a crowdfunding support service company. Kickstarter have no capital outlay when a project is posted on their platform and yes, they have their overheads but that is where it stops. Whereas a support service company such as ours has the cost of PR writing and effective press distribution (sometimes as high as $499 per Press release distribution (www.prweb.com)).

Considering the above and the many variables within crowdfunding success, I'm sure you wouldn't operate a pay only on success business either. The real question here is " Why should a Crowdfunding support company carry all the risk for a project/campaign that only the 'crowd' decides if it's worthy of support?" In our case we offer 'best practice' support, the rest is up to the audience we show campaigns to.

Well put Shane. We need to issue paychecks to our copywriters, our social media people, our office staff and web team. We also need to pay some hefty fees to even get the news out there such as through PRWeb.

We can't lay out all this money and gamble on the possible success of a crowdfunding campaign.

Howard Sherman
http://www.crowdfundbuzz.com
1-(888)-983-1682
Member of the Public Relations Society of America
Follow Us on Twitter - https://twitter.com/icrowdfundbuzz
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MattTheMan
11-27-2014, 12:07 PM
I get tons of these "promoters" on my inbox. I always block and mark as spam, when you read their mail you can tell its just a mass copy paste template with changed links. SO in other words a scam

RAW
11-28-2014, 06:36 AM
Howard,

You are changing the dialog.

You are justifying charging people for your service. Charging and pricing are a different matter than this thread.

This is about whether you deliver on the promises you make. In my case you failed to deliver, it appears from this thread I may not be alone.

Lets stay with that and not shift it to equity or costs associated with your business please.

RAW

AnthonyGreerWA
11-30-2014, 02:48 AM
Ugh... It's frustrating because I would like to get added PR help, but no one's message makes it sound like they would actually help me

BIKEHUD
12-06-2014, 03:44 PM
Helpful feedback.

LJohnverrell
12-14-2014, 06:05 PM
I have to say that this post has been really enlightening. We currently have a campaign on Indiegogo and I have been surfing the net gathering reviews on the three crowdfunding PR's that we are most interested in using.

Two of them approached us - CrowdPRGuru and Smart Crowdfunding. The other one we didn't find until we found these reviews, ie CrowdfundBuzz.

I'm very tempted to use ALL THREE services so that I can get my own feedback on referrals, etc. First of all, a lot of people with campaigns are hoping to get funding with these PR services. We will be happy if we just get exposure for our website and a few contributions if people believe in what we are doing.

That is most important! People have to believe in your campaign before they will back it. I have that understanding of how crowdfunding works. I also really agree with the CrowdFundBuzz guy that said that people that put up campaigns and don't even back themselves is a red flag. How can you ask for $100,000.00 in funding and have 4 people on board and you have only raised $20.00??? Plus, you aren't backing any other campaigns on Indiegogo. Why should I give money to your campaign if you won't even give a penny to mine? I think everyone should have that attitude before they start crowdfunding anyway.

That being said, I will hire both CrowdfundBuzz and Smart Crowdfunding for our campaign in a few weeks and come back and post the results.

roberto9372
12-15-2014, 08:30 AM
GREAT to know! some people out there just want money and don't have morals holding them back from scamming. good looking out!

Tolkein
12-16-2014, 10:38 PM
I too am a victim of crowdfunding buzz. I paid 300usd for the consultant package and received only a lousy press release. I filed a chargeback but mr sharman somehow manipulated the banks into declining. I told the bank that it was a scam. They are looking into it. Mr Sharman even had the cheek to say I didn't lift a finger. We'll that is why I hired you mate to do it for me as I have a chronic blood disorder and too I'll to do this. Sharman daily trolls these sites with his pathetic rebuttals and refuses to refund people's money.To take money from someone who is ill, you are scum. You didn't deliver so cough up because I am not the only one Howard Sharman,

Shane Liddell
12-18-2014, 09:44 AM
Tolkien,
I refer to you comment "I didn't lift a finger. We'll that is why I hired you mate to do it for me"

You cannot expect to pay $300 and have someone (or company) handle your entire crowdfunding campaign for you. Do you seriously think campaign management for 3-60 days is a part of a marketing and support service? Yes, they are called 'support' services for a reason.

Let me share my experience in this industry.

I've have dealt with thousands of campaign creators, a vast majority of whom approach crowdfunding in the completely wrong way. Many have the mentality that they just need to post a campaign, pay $99, $199 or $299 for promotion/support and sit back while the "ATM" churns out the money. I have had clients approach crowdfunding out of desperation, some of whom have re-mortgaged their homes to support their business or idea. We all know how these type of campaigns end.

You cannot operate a crowdfunding campaign without being actively involved. Palming it off as someone else's responsibility does not work. Would you send someone else to the bank or other financial institution on your behalf to raise $10,000? If you did, they (the bank) would certainly want you directly involved in the process. Well, why should you approach crowdfunding any differently?

Many people approach crowdfunding full of passion, belief (false belief in many cases) in their product/offering and determination. In fact, I speak to people everyday who think their idea is the best one since sliced bread. They always ask my opinion of what they are offering, which I give. However, my opinion means very little as the crowd decides if a particular product/idea/cause is what they want or need and my opinion is just an opinion. Yes, there have been occasions where I have seen campaigns where my gut tells me it's a winner but sometimes these winners end up as losers.

Now, if around 80% of campaigns fail (Verge claim a 9.3% success rate for Indiegogo campaigns: ".....out of 142,301 projects that have ended on Indiegogo, only 9.3 percent raised 100 percent of their goals or higher, according to an analysis of public data by The Verge") and people hire marketing and support services for their campaigns, then who do you think the first people they point the finger at when their campaign fails? I think the answer is fairly obvious. Why is this? Because people find it extremely difficult to take responsibility for their own failures by looking in the mirror. This is a known psychological and emotional state of denial and many go through it if a campaign fails.


Merry Christmas to all and may 2015 bring you crowdfunding success

blessing
12-18-2014, 05:19 PM
I attempted to use crowd PR guru two weeks into my campaign, they said that it was ok to pay half upfront and the rest at the end of the Indiegogo campaign. So we did so, they said that they were the best in the business and that they didn't just send out press releases but they pitch the story to their contacts. Two weeks passed and no updates and no movement on our side. They claim that they are results driven, when the sites they put you on are fake dormant sites that they've either created or one of their associates have. They send out templates, and are very nonchalant (I know this because one of their colleagues mistakenly sent me an email about another client, and the "pitch" was exactly like ours) This company is a complete utter scam! Like the rest of the crowdfunding PR companies. I'll strongly advise ANYONE that's been approached via their Kickstarter or Indiegogo not to go with them or use them at all! I know that you don't have the money to lose, especially when you are raising funds for your project.

LJohnverrell
12-20-2014, 11:10 AM
I attempted to use crowd PR guru two weeks into my campaign, they said that it was ok to pay half upfront and the rest at the end of the Indiegogo campaign. So we did so, they said that they were the best in the business and that they didn't just send out press releases but they pitch the story to their contacts. Two weeks passed and no updates and no movement on our side. They claim that they are results driven, when the sites they put you on are fake dormant sites that they've either created or one of their associates have. They send out templates, and are very nonchalant (I know this because one of their colleagues mistakenly sent me an email about another client, and the "pitch" was exactly like ours) This company is a complete utter scam! Like the rest of the crowdfunding PR companies. I'll strongly advise ANYONE that's been approached via their Kickstarter or Indiegogo not to go with them or use them at all! I know that you don't have the money to lose, especially when you are raising funds for your project.

Whoa...that is interesting news. Thanks for sharing. I was thinking about their $495 package but that has just really scared me.

LJohnverrell
12-25-2014, 11:22 PM
Merry Christmas to all!

We selected Smart Crowdfunding's $399 plan for our campaign a few days ago and the results are interesting to say the least. Although this thread is about CrowdFundBuzz, I'm pretty sure the results would be similar. Interestingly, we have some referrals from Howard Sherman of CrowdFundBuzz on our campaign even though we didn't even hired them.

We've learned a lot about how these programs and even how Indiegogo works and will post our results after the holiday.

Amy Thompson
12-26-2014, 07:58 AM
Thanks for the warning. I almost used this company.

Darren Levine
12-26-2014, 10:31 AM
Always good to know this kind of info about such companies. Great and thorough writeup

Tolkein
12-29-2014, 01:57 AM
Leanne,

I might sound like a broken record repeating the same thing here over and over but can you provide any details at all about your campaign? Can you share a link to it with us?

You claimed you paid for our top package - the Consultant package - can you copy all of the emails we exchanged? You have my permission.

Also - please post a link to your press release so everyone can fairly inspect the basis of your claim regarding the quality of your press release for themselves.

And where did you hear we paid Ripoff Report to remove a negative review? Could it be this very forum?

And if not this forum please tell everyone where you heard this news. Please share that link with us too.

And then please go on and explain why a negative rip off report is still on the Internet if we paid them off to remove it -- as you claim.

Howard Sherman
Crowdfund Buzz.

In response to my statement, just refund the money thanks. You have my details.to do this to someone that is chronically ill. I haven't the strength to look through email.For god sake just do the right thing. On the basis that you paid rip off report, it wouldn't surprise me as that is how scammers work. I


To fight me on a chargeback is just low as you have not delivered. Come on let's be honest now and refund the money. You don't take money of sick people Howard.

Tolkein
12-29-2014, 01:59 AM
The press release was a copy and paste Jon then there was nothing. It is a similar scenario with others. Just refund the money mate

Amy Thompson
01-02-2015, 02:55 AM
https://crowdfundingboost.com/

was this the site

Tolkein
01-02-2015, 05:06 AM
No it was crowfundingbuzz.com. Howard Sharman refuses to give a chronically ill woman her money back. He keeps trolling these sites with his pathetic rebuttals because He knows we tell the truth. How about give my money back Howard and don't be such a scumbag.it is my birthday today so do the right thing mate.

Amy Thompson
01-02-2015, 01:49 PM
I think my crowd funding boost is almost a scam. They didn't email me. They left me a comment on my campaign.

Chillance
01-04-2015, 01:22 AM
I'm glad I did my research because they are really good at selling themselves.

I guess those that don't contact you are less of a scam.... :)

einsteinium foundation
01-04-2015, 11:11 PM
sorry to hear and see so many people hiring pros to fashion and promote their campaigns

Darren Levine
01-05-2015, 09:13 AM
as always, if it seems too good to be true... RUN

Tolkein
01-05-2015, 06:12 PM
True, Crowdfunding Buzz is getting a bad name and still they refuse to give me one cent on the money that they have scammed from me. Howard Sharman insists on proof but I am battling a serious illness. Do I have to put up with this garbage. All I want is my money back Howard. How about doing the right thing for once and give an ill person their money back. That would be the right thing to do . What is it going to be Howard.......the continuation of these pathetic little rebuttals or give my money back. When you scam people or take things from them you can expect that they tell others about that. Isn't it about time you start being honest and give the scammed money back. You are a thief and a con man and I will not stop until money money is given back.

Tolkein
01-09-2015, 01:46 AM
Bullshit . Where is my money and a refund.stop lying to crowdfunder and Gived the scammed money back.

Tolkein
01-09-2015, 01:48 AM
When do I get my money back crowdfunding buzz.

Indie Rehab Hour
01-09-2015, 11:10 AM
Is there any point at all paying someone to boost my campaign? Have been looking at options and this was one of them. Glad I checked this post first

Tolkein
01-13-2015, 06:57 PM
Crowdfundign Buzz has gone strangely silent, realising I will NOT GO away until my money is refunded to me. They did not deliver as they claimed. What they did was to take money of someone who is battling a serious illness. It just shows the mentality of crowdfunding buzz. They just don't care. How about doing the right thing for once Howard. Do you want to be remembered as a theif and a con man who takes money of the sick! Do you want your children to realise that their dad is a thief? Then step up and do the right thing. People will think more favourably of you as a person and a business man. So how about it?

TheFunnyThingAboutCancer
01-16-2015, 05:12 PM
Crowdfundign Buzz has gone strangely silent, realising I will NOT GO away until my money is refunded to me. They did not deliver as they claimed. What they did was to take money of someone who is battling a serious illness. It just shows the mentality of crowdfunding buzz. They just don't care. How about doing the right thing for once Howard. Do you want to be remembered as a theif and a con man who takes money of the sick! Do you want your children to realise that their dad is a thief? Then step up and do the right thing. People will think more favourably of you as a person and a business man. So how about it?

Tolkein, can you post your through stats of hits to your campaign please?

I too, am 'ill'. I actually have a 5% chance of seeing 2018. Docs orders. :)
My campaign seems to be doing well, I have gotten some media on my own and even am being considered for a reality tv show, so I thought I would reinvest a little and give Howard a shot. It isn't my money, it's cancer patients money.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/josh-haddon-the-funny-thing-about-cancer-book/x/5589211

Anyway, I gave Howard $430 Canadian dollars today ($359 US or whatever). He spent 12 minutes on the phone with me. I called him because I saw this thread and the ripoff report etc. It is so easy for people AND competitors to post negative reviews of businesses online - so with my research done (which I even mentioned in my sign up form) I called to get a little reassurance. Who knows if this company will help, but my campaign is great. It's not another - 'help me I'm sick - it is fun, unique and NEEDED for people who are battling terminal illnesses. I like to think they will help, I like to think they have learned and won't send me a terribly written press release considering he said they use 'top writers'.

I used to own the largest timeshare company in Canada. It is easy to have bad reviews. I am confident I won't eat these words and in 10 days or so, I can come back on here and tell you how wonderful Crowdfund Buzz is.

I am real. This is me. I will be your case study people of crowdfundingforum.com :)

Josh Haddon
joshwritesstuff@gmail.com

Dakota Bramblette
01-17-2015, 12:17 AM
Good to know! Won't be using them!

Shane Liddell
01-20-2015, 09:19 AM
Crowdfundign Buzz has gone strangely silent, realising I will NOT GO away until my money is refunded to me. They did not deliver as they claimed. What they did was to take money of someone who is battling a serious illness. It just shows the mentality of crowdfunding buzz. They just don't care. How about doing the right thing for once Howard. Do you want to be remembered as a theif and a con man who takes money of the sick! Do you want your children to realise that their dad is a thief? Then step up and do the right thing. People will think more favourably of you as a person and a business man. So how about it?

Tolkien,

This is a business transaction and although I sympathize with you, your illness should not be played as a card in this situation. Was their offering inclusive of any guarantees? If you advertised in your local paper and it brought no results, would they refund your money? I doubt it.

Have to say - I think Josh nailed it with this "It is so easy for people AND competitors to post negative reviews of businesses online"

From our own experience we find that it is really difficult to get happy customers with successful campaigns to post reviews about our servies whereby people seem to find it so easy to post negative one's.

Amy Thompson
01-20-2015, 11:21 AM
I'm not saying this company is a scam. Yet how many other company's get so many unhappy customers. This thread has launched 11 pages. With at least two unhappy customers in the first few threads I read. I mean one of the Admin of this site has a crowd funding service. Yet you don't see a thread with his company with people complaining.

I agree it's much more common to write a negative experience then a good one. It still doesn't make the negative one any less bad. From what I read in first few pages. There was refunds given. A free offer to prem services on next campaign. Complaints about emails never answering. I mean those things are real. The people who do have this crowd funding stuff down..don't usually spawn this many complaints.

CrowdFundBuzz
01-22-2015, 06:54 PM
Merry Christmas to all!

We selected Smart Crowdfunding's $399 plan for our campaign a few days ago and the results are interesting to say the least. Although this thread is about CrowdFundBuzz, I'm pretty sure the results would be similar. Interestingly, we have some referrals from Howard Sherman of CrowdFundBuzz on our campaign even though we didn't even hired them.

We've learned a lot about how these programs and even how Indiegogo works and will post our results after the holiday.

You received referrals from me because we love crowdfunders of all stripes - even if they never pay us! :)

Wishing you only success,

Howard A. Sherman
http://www.crowdfundbuzz.com
1-(888)-983-1682 Direct 1-(732)-561-4635
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CrowdFundBuzz
01-22-2015, 07:13 PM
I think I know who you are but for the record kindly confirm for the public record your name and the link to the crowdfunding project you hired us to promote for you. This will allow me to check our records and make sure I have my facts right as well as allowing the public to have full disclosure of all of the facts surrounding your claim.

Howard A. Sherman
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CrowdFundBuzz
01-22-2015, 07:14 PM
We haven't gone strangely silent. We haven't been in this forum in many months is all!

Howard A. Sherman
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CrowdFundBuzz
01-22-2015, 07:18 PM
Too right Shane! You nailed what Josh nailed and nailed down more besides!

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CrowdFundBuzz
01-22-2015, 07:43 PM
No it was crowfundingbuzz.com. Howard Sharman refuses to give a chronically ill woman her money back. He keeps trolling these sites with his pathetic rebuttals because He knows we tell the truth. How about give my money back Howard and don't be such a scumbag.it is my birthday today so do the right thing mate.

Oh gosh it is you! I thought so! Hello again!

In the immortal words of legendary radio personality Paul Harvey- "Now it's time for the rest of the story."

You submitted a chargeback to your bank. We responded with proof of delivery of all services rendered and the bank ruled in our favor.

Why not post complaints about your bank for not taking your side in this matter? Why are you lambasting my company for proving we did the job you paid us for?

Oh - and about your illness - why is that sad fact coming to light only here and now? Why didn't you tell me you had a debilitating illness when you hired our company back in June 2014? Or July? Or August?

I've proven to be very sympathetic to people who are suffering. Just last night I volunteered two hours of my time to help a chap who is very ill without a second thought.

The saddest part of your story and his is that neither him nor you acted on the wisdom and advice I shared. What kind of positive results could've been gained had my consultations not been ignored? We'll never know the answer to my question which is sadder still. The more real-world data of crowdfunding results that can be shared with the world increases the overall probability of more crowdfunding projects succeeding which is the ultimate goal, isn't it?

And as nicely as I can say this - how can your complaints be taken seriously in light of the fact you decided to ignore critical crowdfunding advice you were given? People that are serious about crowdfunding success do whatever it takes to make their crowdfunding campaign succeed. They definitely don't ignore any advice to help them reach their goal.

If you give me your permission I'll be happy to share all of the correspondence between us as well as the hard data of your project so the public can judge everything fairly for themselves.

Howard A. Sherman
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Scott Thomas Anderson
01-22-2015, 09:16 PM
Being a reporter, I was suspicious of how quickly I heard from these consultants - like, within an hour of my project being activated. I don't know, maybe it's on the up and up, but it gave me a bad vibe.

Brittany Thompson
01-22-2015, 10:24 PM
Oh gosh it is you! I thought so! Hello again!

In the immortal words of legendary radio personality Paul Harvey- "Now it's time for the rest of the story."

You submitted a chargeback to your bank. We responded with proof of delivery of all services rendered and the bank ruled in our favor.

Why not post complaints about your bank for not taking your side in this matter? Why are you lambasting my company for proving we did the job you paid us for?

Oh - and about your illness - why is that sad fact coming to light only here and now? Why didn't you tell me you had a debilitating illness when you hired our company back in June 2014? Or July? Or August?

I've proven to be very sympathetic to people who are suffering. Just last night I volunteered two hours of my time to help a chap who is very ill without a second thought.

The saddest part of your story and his is that neither him nor you acted on the wisdom and advice I shared. What kind of positive results could've been gained had my consultations not been ignored? We'll never know the answer to my question which is sadder still. The more real-world data of crowdfunding results that can be shared with the world increases the overall probability of more crowdfunding projects succeeding which is the ultimate goal, isn't it?

And as nicely as I can say this - how can your complaints be taken seriously in light of the fact you decided to ignore critical crowdfunding advice you were given? People that are serious about crowdfunding success do whatever it takes to make their crowdfunding campaign succeed. They definitely don't ignore any advice to help them reach their goal.

If you give me your permission I'll be happy to share all of the correspondence between us as well as the hard data of your project so the public can judge everything fairly for themselves.

Howard A. Sherman
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I wouldn't buy from this company. Just look at the language they use in talking to their customers. Everything is the customers fault. I can't believe this company would take advantage of a woman. When they too incompetent to do the service they were asked to do. This company didn't even respond to that other poster till this thread was created.

CrowdFundBuzz
01-23-2015, 12:07 PM
I wouldn't buy from this company. Just look at the language they use in talking to their customers. Everything is the customers fault. I can't believe this company would take advantage of a woman. When they too incompetent to do the service they were asked to do. This company didn't even respond to that other poster till this thread was created.

What language Brittany? Do you see any profanity? Any name calling? Any accusations?

You will if you read over this Rip Off Report - http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/crowdundbuzzcom/Matawan-New-Jersey/crowdundbuzzcom-dishonest-sly-con-artists-Matawan-New-Jersey-1177739

It's not every day you see a business referencing a rip off report in their own defense, is it?

In light of the back-and-forth in the rip off report I've shown a lot of patience and tolerance for Leanne's bombastic behavior, if anything.

If you carefully examine the chronology from start to finish you should quickly see that there's more to her story than meets the eye. More to the point - she changed her story entirely and went straight into fiction. The part where she accuses me of manipulating her bank into withholding her funds is a hoot.

Read over all the material carefully and you should find it eye-opening

Back to what you said about not replying - the history of this thread and this entire forum will show we've diligently, thoroughly and thoughtfully replied to every post.

The result? Just as with Leanne,the facts presented are totally ignored as the attacks and accusations continue.

Go back to screen 1 of this thread and read each and every post and the pattern becomes clear. Too many people don't want to hear the truth; they just want to hear what they want to hear.

Shane Liddell and I both sound like broken records here playing the same song over and over again to an audience that isn't listening.

Let's all of us once and for all dispel the myth that runs along the lines of "I paid X dollars to Y company for PR and advertising. My crowdfunding campaign didn't reach it's goal and it's all their fault! They took my money, didn't get me the results I wanted therefore they must be a crowdfunding scam!"

I've blogged about this extensively and am happy to share specific articles from our crowdfunding blog (http://crowdfundbuzz.com/crowdfunding_blog/)

http://crowdfundbuzz.com/crowdfunding-advertising/

http://crowdfundbuzz.com/crowdfunding-pr/

http://crowdfundbuzz.com/news-coverage-crowdfunding-projects-doesnt-work/

http://crowdfundbuzz.com/press-coverage-crowdfunding-campaigns/

http://crowdfundbuzz.com/crowdfunding-campaign-promotion-100-guarantee/

As you can see we don't keep it a secret that PR and advertising can't come with any sort of guarantees or promised performance. We're not out to trick anyone or fool them into a false sense of confidence; we put the truth out there front and center.

We always deliver for our clients in providing the services they paid us for. What the disconnect here seems to be is that too many people operate under the false assumption that PR and advertising services automatically guarantees financial success. That is simply not true. At the same time, without promotion and advertising in some form or fashion, crowdfunding campaigns have virtually no chance of success.

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Brittany Thompson
01-23-2015, 06:06 PM
You gave a refund to a customer early on and promised a free prem campaign on their next one. They also complained they couldn't get you to answer their emails till this thread was created. I think in a bid to dodge bad PR. You came on here responded to that. The fact you refunded the customer. Shows a hint of guilt. You were accountable for not doing the services your site offers.

There are dozens of crowd funding websites. Out of all the ones. Yours is the only one people here have made a thread to complain about. You say people don't want to hear the truth. I didn't see you admit the truth the customer that you refunded. That is you didn't reply to their messages till this thread was created. It would be nice if you stopped highlighting other peoples faults. While downplaying your own.

Who doesn't reply to emails till it's too late. A bad company that's who. When she talks about you manipulated her bank. I think she means that you convinced them you performed services that you didn't do or either she's not happy with. You can't ignore all these people making complaints about your company. I don't see people complaining about services of other company's. I think you should really upgrade your services because clearly people aren't happy with what they are getting.

Tolkein
01-23-2015, 06:08 PM
So where is my money then Howard? It would be appreciated if you stop trying to defend yourself. You are of a dishonest character and blatantly refusing to give me one cent. You did not deliver, I did not recieve any emails as you suggested. Stop lying and be done with the matter and refund the money . it would be appreciated. As to my illness, I don't discuss it usually. I am just appealing to your better judgement. It has failed so far.

Brittany Thompson
01-24-2015, 07:46 AM
The below are just a few quotes from people unhappy with their service. Over 5 people (there could be many more) complained about their services not being completed or not doing what they advertise. I don't know if this company is just incompetent or a scam. You can't ignore all these people having almost the same issues over and over again. I think its time people started to officially blacklist this company. They have a pattern of unhappy customers. They give other legit crowd funding sites a bad name. Here are just a few quotes from people in this thread. Not all. Again for the safety of the community. I think this forum should officially list this company as blacklisted or at least give people fair warning of negative reviews.




I’m glad im not the only one who is furious about the Crowdfundbuzz crowdfunding pr scam service. Crowdfund Buzz is the worst PR crowdfunding company out there, I did a crowdfund buzz review andI posted a Ripoff Report about my Crowdfundbuzz.com review online but they paid off Ripoffreport.com to remove my Ripoff Report I posted about Crowdfundbuzz, that just shows much Crowdfund buzz truly cares about their reputation. They’ll just pay people off to save face. I got burned by Crowdfundbuzz back in December of last year with my Indiegogo campaign. I had already raised a good amount of funds from my own social networks and my team’s social networks so enlisted in their crowdfunding pr service. Crowdfund Buzz gave us no traffic at all on our campaign, which obviously means no contributions. Our crowdfunding project didn’t get featured on any blogs or news sites like they promised me either. Crowdfund buzz was eager to take my payment, but Crowdfundbuzz was not very eager about delivering a product to actually help my Indiegogo crowdfunding campaign by delivering their crowdfunding pr press release service. I am not sure how they removed my Crowdfundbuzz Ripoff Reports but they did, but don’t let their lack of reports fool you they’re a total scam with a bad reputation within the crowdfunding community, they only scam newcomers who haven’t heard the horror stories. I am advising you all from my Crowdfundbuzz review that it is a total scam service, the team at Crowdfund buzz is the worst crowdfunding press release service to use, they’re are a lot of scammers on the net and they’re one of the top ones to look out for. My advice and my Crowdfund buzz review Avoid Crowdfundbuzz and Crowdfund Buzz and http://crowdfundbuzz.com/ for promoting a crowdfunding project.


Again Howard, that's nice and all, but still the results show for itself and of course the 'sloppy' work.


Any despite the nightmare I have encountered with the Crowdfund Buzz, I think things are starting to look bright as I have been getting consistent guidance and support for my campaign from this dynamic expert online and I may have found the key to achieving a successful campaign. If at the end of my campaign it is a success I will gladly share how others can achieve great results in their crowdfunding project.

That's just how the cookie crumbles, frustrations will arise such as my case above but we should never give up :).

Best Regards,


Wow I really wish I saw this CrowdfundBuzz review scam report before I enlisted in their service a couple weeks ago. I emailed the guy over at Crowdfundbuzz.com regarding their crowdfunding pr press release service and what guarantees they offered. They gave me some great promises about their service and the results they could get me BEFORE I signed on with them.

I pretty much had the same experience with the OP, they gave me some BS referrals probably from China that did not contribute. I don't even know if they did a Crowdfund Buzz press release because I couldn't see my project pop up ANYWHERE on the web on any news and medi, and when I asked them to see my press release they would not email me back.. Crowdfundbuzz is a total scam. They never returned my emails or my phone calls even when I emailed their main email info@crowdfundbuzz.com or at http://crowdfundbuzz.com/ Once you pay they just take your money and vanish. I can't believe these guys are still in business, especially looking around online and seeing this thread. Also I love their rebutals on the forum here.

Also Check out this Crowdfundbuzz review in a ripoff report, they name everything wrong in the Crowdfundbuzz.com ripoff report. Or you can see it by looking up Crowdfund buzz reviews.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/crowdfund-buzz/matawan-new-jersey-07747/crowdfund-buzz-crowd-fund-buzz-crowdfundbuzz-crowdfundbuzzcom-crowdfund-buzz-worst-crow-1152789

These guys at Crowdfundbuzz are the true characteristic of a online scammer, They are the most scammy crowdfund PR service for crowdfunding campaigns ever. If you have a Kickstarter or Indiegogo project then STAY AWAY FROM Crowdfund buzz - Crowdfundbuzz - Crowdfundbuzz.com full of scammers! Ripoff Report



Sarah

They make a great sales pitch but I share enormous disappointment.

In my case it cost me $200

I wish I had read this as well.

A scam or just incompetence? I don't know but the results are not what I paid for. And certainly not what was promised.

They promised to 'hold my hand through the whole process' but they don't even hold the phone.

Our project has not received a single contribution from their efforts. The press release never saw more than one distribution on an obscure website.

The press release they wrote was garbage.

We are http://igg.me/at/EmployThis/x

Robin A West.


CrowdFundBuzz
In reply to your comment "I never heard from you. You have decided that instead that this should be a public discussion so I am here."

I was a bit surprised by your response as you seem to have the sequence of events confused, which might be misleading to those reading this thread.

In the minimal interaction I had as a client, I only dealt with two people in your company: The very ineffective 'account manager' and you (the founder of Crowdfund Buzz). In the end I was corresponding with you personally and you were the one to ignore me completely for weeks until my project expired. After this I posted this article on my website in response to which you contacted me the same day to offer the refund and promotion of a future project (the email you refer to above). Hence, this review is what it took to elicit a response and this was your first contact with me since my last plea for assistance while still a paying client. If it helps I will gladly post the email here you sent on 21 September in which you confirm having seen this review on my website (posted 21 September) and then offering me compensation in the form of a refund and future promotion of a project.

Based on your company's total lack of interest up until that point I had no interest in dealing with Crowdfund Buzz any further. Simply refunding me definitely does not rectify the time wasted and if it had been people in your employment who were at fault (as you implied earlier) I would have been open to discussing the issue with you, but seeing as it was you personally (the Founder) who was responsible for the poor service I received, I did not see the point in even pursuing the matter. Based on the poor service I received I also have no intention of using Crowdfund Buzz for anything in the future, even if it had been for free and therefore I had nothing further to ask you.

I hope this clarifies my reaction and if not, allow me to explain it using a simple analogy;

You pay someone to clean your home windows for a month and they never show up to do so and never answer your calls. You then place a small add in the local newspaper warning other of this scam. The window cleaners then realize that this could affect their business and they contact you to offer you your money back as well as a free month of service. Would you seriously thank them for the refund and take them up on this offer or even correspond with them further if you had already been ignored this long and knew you could not rely on them providing the service?

Perhaps someone else would be more forgiving, personally I don't appreciate businesses or people wasting my time.

Finally, you chose to reply to this thread after the fact so implying that I decided to make this a public discussion 'instead' is incorrect.


I have also tried this with no success :(

CrowdFundBuzz
01-25-2015, 08:29 AM
You gave a refund to a customer early on and promised a free prem campaign on their next one. They also complained they couldn't get you to answer their emails till this thread was created. I think in a bid to dodge bad PR. You came on here responded to that. The fact you refunded the customer. Shows a hint of guilt. You were accountable for not doing the services your site offers.

There are dozens of crowd funding websites. Out of all the ones. Yours is the only one people here have made a thread to complain about. You say people don't want to hear the truth. I didn't see you admit the truth the customer that you refunded. That is you didn't reply to their messages till this thread was created. It would be nice if you stopped highlighting other peoples faults. While downplaying your own.

Who doesn't reply to emails till it's too late. A bad company that's who. When she talks about you manipulated her bank. I think she means that you convinced them you performed services that you didn't do or either she's not happy with. You can't ignore all these people making complaints about your company. I don't see people complaining about services of other company's. I think you should really upgrade your services because clearly people aren't happy with what they are getting.

Since I joined the company back in November 2013 I don't ever remember giving a client a refund and then promise to work on their next project for free. I also reply to every single email I get every single day. I think you have me confused with Matt Cooke, the previous owner of Crowdfund Buzz.

There's a great radio show called "Red Eye America" - it's on Monday - Friday overnight and the two hosts have a very sound policy; when people call in to the show they are required to cite the source of their references (e.g. the caller might say "Ever since the United States started fracking to get oil, global warming due to American activities increased." When the hosts ask the caller where they got this information and the caller can't produce a shred of documentation or a single reference to back up their claim, they say goodbye to the caller and end the conversation. They then remind the audience that when sharing information you need to be prepared to back up everything you're saying with credible references and documentation since anyone can say basically anything, make all the claims they like which ends up wasting everyone's time as the audience struggles to get a truthful understanding.

I wish this forum had a policy like that.

In the American legal system the burden of proof lies with the accuser. Where's the proof backing up substantially any or all of the complaints we're being accused of here? Heck, it's clear that several complaints were made by 'drive by posters' who popped into this thread, dropped their bomb on us with how bad we were and then never returned to this forum, much less reply to the response I made to their one and only post.

The result? I reply to the post, ask the person for the basis of their complaint so we can air it out. Not surprisingly, they don't respond.

Back when this thread started I wasn't with Crowdfund Buzz so I can't speak to what happened back then or why. I've been pretty diligent with keeping up with posts on here until the thread of the discussion fades.

Back to my last post - which you replied to but ignored practically all of the contents of - the bank received tangible, verifiable information that led them to make the decision that they did. If I couldn't prove my company delivered all of the services we were paid to perform I have no doubt we would have lost the chargeback claim. As to her not being happy with our services that's another matter entirely.

And that's exactly why we go out of our way all over our website clearly explaining what services we offer, samples of the work we do, an invitation to follow along with us on Twitter, Facebook, Google+ to see how our social media activities are carried out as well as investigating all of the projects we've successfully worked on, the testimonials from happy clients we've received, etc.

The crux of the matter is what I said in my last post; the source of the the vast majority of these complaints stem from a false assumption. To remind everyone of the single biggest point I made: nobody should make the assumption that paying for PR and advertising will guarantee a crowdfunding campaign will raise funds.

Like everyone else - you side-stepped the single biggest point I made, and other important points as well, to focus on one tiny detail and try to make THAT the heart of the matter. But it isn't. Then you attempted to smoke screen things further by bringing up the very history of this thread which was before my time.

Heck, out of the three paragraph reply you made, two of those paragraphs addressed ancient history dating back to before I joined the company. To explore that new topic is a whole new journey; we expanded our services across the board, began offering next-day execution of all orders and a myriad of other things all designed to enhance the customer's experience of working with us every step of the way. To explore that topic is also besides the point of this current conversation.

That's why I've largely avoided this thread; it's impossible to have a fair, informed and intelligent dialog.

I can delve into one of the red herrings you threw out there - that this is the only thread complaining about Crowdfund Buzz. It would only be fair to add that people complain about crowdfunding PR companies all the time and all over this forum. You can't go ten minutes in almost any part of this thread to hear complaints of "I paid X dollars to company Y and they didn't do anything." etc. Heck, one complaint I came across mentioned how they paid a company for advertising their crowdfunding project and then the company disappeared. Literally. No more website, no nothing.

I stand by my previous post and I'll reiterate the key point that both Shane and I made time and time again; the world of PR and advertising doesn't come with guarantees. We promise to do our job in terms of media outreach and boosting public awareness in tangible, measurable ways but we CAN'T guarantee what the media itself or the public at large will decide to do when they learn about a crowdfunding campaign through our efforts. And that's back to my last post where I provided links to the five different articles taken from our crowdfunding blog that explains this in great detail with plenty of examples, professional citations and specific case studies.

The core of the issue behind most - if not all - of the complaints I've seen come down to the misconception that we're a scam because clients paid for our services and didn't get the funding they were expecting. We've been on a public awareness campaign to educate the public ever since.

Rather than repeating myself - my previous post addresses this fallacy head on with mountains of documentation that clearly explains it all.

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CrowdFundBuzz
01-25-2015, 08:36 AM
The below are just a few quotes from people unhappy with their service. Over 5 people (there could be many more) complained about their services not being completed or not doing what they advertise. I don't know if this company is just incompetent or a scam. You can't ignore all these people having almost the same issues over and over again. I think its time people started to officially blacklist this company. They have a pattern of unhappy customers. They give other legit crowd funding sites a bad name. Here are just a few quotes from people in this thread. Not all. Again for the safety of the community. I think this forum should officially list this company as blacklisted or at least give people fair warning of negative reviews.

Ditto my most recent post --

I stand by my previous post and I'll reiterate the key point that both Shane and I made time and time again; the world of PR and advertising doesn't come with guarantees. We promise to do our job in terms of media outreach and boosting public awareness in tangible, measurable ways but we CAN'T guarantee what the media itself or the public at large will decide to do when they learn about a crowdfunding campaign through our efforts. And that's back to my last post where I provided links to the five different articles taken from our crowdfunding blog that explains this in great detail with plenty of examples, professional citations and specific case studies.

The core of the issue behind most - if not all - of the complaints I've seen come down to the misconception that we're a scam because clients paid for our services and didn't get the funding they were expecting. We've been on a public awareness campaign to educate the public ever since.

Rather than repeating myself - my previous post addresses this fallacy head on with mountains of documentation that clearly explains it all.

Howard A. Sherman
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Tolkein
01-26-2015, 05:44 PM
Ditto my most recent post --

I stand by my previous post and I'll reiterate the key point that both Shane and I made time and time again; the world of PR and advertising doesn't come with guarantees. We promise to do our job in terms of media outreach and boosting public awareness in tangible, measurable ways but we CAN'T guarantee what the media itself or the public at large will decide to do when they learn about a crowdfunding campaign through our efforts. And that's back to my last post where I provided links to the five different articles taken from our crowdfunding blog that explains this in great detail with plenty of examples, professional citations and specific case studies.

The core of the issue behind most - if not all - of the complaints I've seen come down to the misconception that we're a scam because clients paid for our services and didn't get the funding they were expecting. We've been on a public awareness campaign to educate the public ever since.

Rather than repeating myself - my previous post addresses this fallacy head on with mountains of documentation that clearly explains it all.

Howard A. Sherman
http://www.crowdfundbuzz.com
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So where is my money. Give up mate. You don't do that to someone who is ill and battling a serious condition. It would be appreicated.

Tolkein
02-04-2015, 06:35 PM
I am trying to type the message while fighting waves of nausea. For goodness sake it would be appreciated to refund the money as requested. You are fully aware that I have a chronic illness. i should not be put under this stress. Do the right thing and refund the money and be done with it. Is it that hard for you to do the right thing. To take money from the ill is just about as low as you can get! Do I get my money back or have to put up with another rebuttal? You did the wrong thing mate, so how about rectify matters!

Tolkein
02-04-2015, 06:36 PM
You are a scammer mate !

Winston Tan
02-10-2015, 12:10 PM
Ditto my most recent post --

I stand by my previous post and I'll reiterate the key point that both Shane and I made time and time again; the world of PR and advertising doesn't come with guarantees. We promise to do our job in terms of media outreach and boosting public awareness in tangible, measurable ways but we CAN'T guarantee what the media itself or the public at large will decide to do when they learn about a crowdfunding campaign through our efforts. And that's back to my last post where I provided links to the five different articles taken from our crowdfunding blog that explains this in great detail with plenty of examples, professional citations and specific case studies.

The core of the issue behind most - if not all - of the complaints I've seen come down to the misconception that we're a scam because clients paid for our services and didn't get the funding they were expecting. We've been on a public awareness campaign to educate the public ever since.

Rather than repeating myself - my previous post addresses this fallacy head on with mountains of documentation that clearly explains it all.

Howard A. Sherman
http://www.crowdfundbuzz.com
1-(888)-983-1682 Direct 1-(732)-561-4635
Member of the Public Relations Society of America
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Sorry Howard, you asked me to read from head to toes but i cannot.. Everything seem like controversy.
one Question .. Those successful campaigns at your website really all your customer?

Winston
DVa-The two in one shoe @ indiegogo (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/dva-the-two-in-one-shoe/x/9004670#home)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdBjaLXezIQ

CrowdFundBuzz
02-10-2015, 12:33 PM
Sorry Howard, you asked me to read from head to toes but i cannot.. Everything seem like controversy.
one Question .. Those successful campaigns at your website really all your customer?

Winston
DVa-The two in one shoe @ indiegogo (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/dva-the-two-in-one-shoe/x/9004670#home)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdBjaLXezIQ

Yes they are. Feel free to cross check and verify every successful campaign we list against our Facebook and Twitter accounts as well as the press releases we distributed. Every campaign we claim credit for helping are our clients whose campaigns we promoted with the public record out there to provide proof anyone can see for themselves.

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CrowdFundBuzz
02-10-2015, 12:48 PM
You are a scammer mate !

And you, my dear, are an outragist.

You're calling me a scammer after I've provided abundant proof that I am not - including proof of delivery of all of the services you paid us for as well as detailed explanations of exactly how PR/advertising/promotion works -- all of which you have tacitly ignored time and time again as you persist with your accusations and insults.

That makes you an outragist. You can look up the definition here - http://blog.dilbert.com/post/109482303301/outragists-are-the-new-awful

There's no point in trying to have a conversation with someone that doesn't want to talk but just shout their vitriol.

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Tolkein
02-11-2015, 02:05 AM
I would appreciate a refund. You are fully aware that I am not well. You gave someone else a refund. Why not me.

Winston Tan
02-11-2015, 03:24 AM
The Facebook got 11k followers no one likes no ones share ? so strange ..


Winston Tan
Dav-The two in one shoe at indiegogo (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/dva-the-two-in-one-shoe/x/9004670)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdBjaLXezIQ

CrowdFundBuzz
02-11-2015, 09:09 AM
I would appreciate a refund. You are fully aware that I am not well. You gave someone else a refund. Why not me.

It's clear you didn't read anything I wrote over the past several days. Since you're not taking the time read or consider anything I've said I'm not going to take the time to read or consider anything you have to say either - from this moment forward.

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CrowdFundBuzz
02-11-2015, 09:15 AM
[QUOTE=Winston Tan;31047]The Facebook got 11k followers no one likes no ones share ? so strange ..

It's not strange at all Winston if you stop and think about it.

First - we do get likes and shares - just not on every post and not every time. This is the norm for any Facebook fan page. Lower activity on fan pages is an established norm on Facebook.

That's because brand pages like ours are positioned more to broadcast a message to the audience instead of engage in conversation. Among our personal Facebook pages we’re all accustomed to lots of shares, likes and comments from friends and family although this doesn't always happen either.

On a Facebook page for a brand that’s very different.

Case in point – Hebrew National is one of the most popular hot dog brands in America. Here’s their Facebook page -- https://www.facebook.com/HebrewNational

They have almost 120,000 likes. That’s roughly 10 times the number of fans we have and yet if you look at any post there’s a relatively tiny number of likes, shares and comments.

A similar example can be seen with Macy’s – one of the largest and most respected retailers in America. Here’s their Facebook page - https://www.facebook.com/Macys

They have almost 15 MILLION likes. Yet if you look at their Facebook page a tiny percentage of their fans engage on any single post (like, share, etc.)

A third example of this is CNN - https://www.facebook.com/cnn They have over 16 million fans and if you like at any single post they make – which I’ll admit are sometimes more exciting than ours (people that catch on fire, a TV actor eating a rabbit, etc.) gets only a tiny fraction of audience reaction.

This is the nature of information distribution – it’s intended to share interesting items with an audience who can decide to react to any given item. As you can see – most people decide not to react at all as far as we can tell. Just because they didn't like or comment on a post doesn't mean they didn't click on the link shared to check it out.

Howard A. Sherman
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Winston Tan
02-12-2015, 12:02 AM
another, sorry i can't trust you

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Crowdfund-Buzz/Matawan-New-Jersey-07747/Crowdfund-Buzz-Crowd-Fund-Buzz-CrowdFundBuzz-CrowdFundBuzzcom-Crowdfund-Buzz-worst-crow-1152789

Winston Tan
02-12-2015, 12:04 AM
Seem like the crowdfundingPR less complaint

Shiva
02-12-2015, 07:17 AM
Ah Sherman, you aren't fooling anyone here.

How can you be so successful if you're ripping people off? Well, if you're selling Lisa Simpson's tiger-repellent rocks, you won't get any complaints. Those who never meet a tiger don't complain, and those who do meet a tiger get eaten...

You are in the business of selling shovels to gold-diggers. The shovels would barely be useable to move jelly, but that doesn't matter because there is no gold in those hills anyway. And you knew that all along.

I found Tolkein's project, or what I assume to be it. I won't insult your intelligence Sherman, so I assume that when you saw that book, you knew exactly how abysmal its prospects were. Yet you sold. You sold the full package of "services", advice that I could have given better for free ("Don't bother"), and promotion that would make a business directory scammer look generous by comparison.

Speaking of scammers, the main thing scammers count on is that when the victims find out they were tricked, they are too ashamed to do anything about it. Was that was you thought about Tolkein? Well, it wouldn't be a bad guess, since she seems just as low-effort and greedy as you (nice fake Amazon reviews you have there, Tolkein!). But let's call a spade a spade, and a barely functioning jelly-moving implement ... well, that. Crowdfund Buzz is and remains a junk product, just as useless as the vast majority of crowdfunding projects out there.

jesmart1
02-12-2015, 11:22 AM
I'm not surprised, given the nature of some people. It doesn't help when its for something worthwhile.

Tolkein
02-14-2015, 07:23 PM
Shiva your comments are insulting concerning my books. The reviews aren't fake and I was scammed. If you cannot see the truth the shut up.

Tolkein
02-14-2015, 07:26 PM
Are you the dickhead responsible for those nasty comments on my books?

Shiva
02-15-2015, 08:40 AM
Nah, I didn't write anything. I just clicked on one of the five-star reviews, and found a person who had given only five star reviews. About two of them each day, for a year or so. Most for vanity publishing grade literature like yours, a few for scammy self-help books. Nobody reads two books every day, especially not books of that caliber, and manages to get gushing and enthusiastic about every single one.

I'm sure you'll deny paying for those reviews. Just like all the other recipients of them.

Artistree Films
02-15-2015, 11:26 AM
I've been thinking about checking out Crowdfunding Buzz. After nearly two years, do you think it's a viable option now?

EricG82
02-16-2015, 12:47 AM
SCAM ALERT! I would stay away from CROWDFUND BUZZ:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/CrowdFundBuzz-and-crowdfundbuzzcom/Matawan-New-Jersey-07747/CrowdFundBuzz-and-crowdfundbuzzcom-crowd-fund-buzz-crowdfunding-blog-crowdfund-buzz-1192671

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Crowdfund-Buzz/Matawan-New-Jersey-07747/Crowdfund-Buzz-Crowd-Fund-Buzz-CrowdFundBuzz-CrowdFundBuzzcom-Crowdfund-Buzz-worst-crow-1152789


Lots of victims, I don’t know about you but I don’t want to be one of them! Why would any legit marketing service have soooooo much controversy unless they are hurting people?

A lot has already been said but here’s my two cents: crowdfunding is hard enough without getting prayed on my these scammers like Howard Sherman and Matt Cooke taking money from sick old ladies. Karma is really gonna get these bastards for causing so much pain in the world. I mean, seriously, tricking sick old ladies into giving you hundreds of dollars for your bait and switch PR / crowdfund buzz press release crap? This guy is going to get what’s coming to him people, just wait. They’ve scammed just too many people and its obviously starting to catch up with them now. Its not going to end well for these scammers.

Tolkein
02-16-2015, 01:36 AM
shiva why are you so nasty about my books. I wanted to cancel the campaign but Sherman would not allow me.that was within an hour of signing up. Shiva you don't know me and for what purpose I am writing. I want to help victims of abuse and you dare call me greedy. We'll if I have extra food, I
Help others in need. The reviews are legit irrespective of what you say

Tolkein
02-16-2015, 01:39 AM
Finally some one sees the light. Instead of Sherman saying perfect it and sign on later. I would have done that but it was convenient for him to take the money and run. I don't need this and battling a chronic illness

Tolkein
02-16-2015, 01:41 AM
shiva why are you so nasty about my books. I wanted to cancel the campaign but Sherman would not allow me.that was within an hour of signing up. Shiva you don't know me and for what purpose I am writing. I want to help victims of abuse and you dare call me greedy. We'll if I have extra food, I
Help others in need. The reviews are legit irrespective of what you say

For the record my boy read 13 books in one day!

Shiva
02-16-2015, 04:49 AM
Tolkein, if your boy writes multiple glowing reviews for stuff like the "Brainergy-X" diet supplement pills, books like "Making Money Online: How I Earn A Full-Time Income On The Internet" and "Science Behind Luck: Analysis of Luck with 8 Proven Exercises to Improve Luck" every day, then you need to have a serious talk with him.

About your books, eh, I don't think they sound very good, but that's just based on a first impression, namely the typo in the title. Maybe I'm wrong and they are fabulous! But it's still not right to buy fake reviews, you know? If for no other reason, the people offering that sort of thing don't give a damn whether they sell you a worthless product.

Tolkein
02-17-2015, 07:29 PM
My boy doesn't write reviews like that. He is in IT

Tolkein
02-17-2015, 07:31 PM
That was meant to be like that Hitler's Holyday Camp. That was my dad who actually wrote the novel, despite minimal education and English being his second language.

Chad Kaplan
02-18-2015, 01:44 PM
Most of those types of offers are scams. I recently launched a campaign and have gotten about nine comments from people supposedly wanting to spread the word.

Shane Liddell
02-18-2015, 04:49 PM
"I recently launched a campaign and have gotten about nine comments from people supposedly wanting to spread the word."

Hi Chad,

Beware of those posting to your campaign in an attempt to secure business. I'm really disappointed with IGG for allowing this spam and I have let them know several times. A few years ago they introduced a "Report as Spam" beside each comment but they removed it a few months later. Maybe too much admin for them to handle.

Amy Thompson
02-19-2015, 06:23 AM
I'm confused. CrowdBuzz refunded one customer. I understand they say its not their fault that fundraising didn't reach its goal. Would it really bankrupt them to refund Tolkein as well. It would make for great PR. From all the comments I've seen negative about the company. They could use some.

Thomas Goldsmith
02-22-2015, 05:57 AM
This was great information thank you

Lyn B.
02-23-2015, 10:36 PM
I spent the last 30 minutes reading this thread. I must agree with the OP and those who added some interesting points. It seems like everyone on here has lost money with them, and nobody has made squat from crowdfundbuzzz.

So it seems that crowdfundbuzz is definitely scam. But my question is this: how do they keep on getting new victims every week? There must be greed on both sides for this scam to continue.

RAW
02-24-2015, 01:51 PM
I spent the last 30 minutes reading this thread. I must agree with the OP and those who added some interesting points. It seems like everyone on here has lost money with them, and nobody has made squat from crowdfundbuzzz.

So it seems that crowdfundbuzz is definitely scam. But my question is this: how do they keep on getting new victims every week? There must be greed on both sides for this scam to continue.

Well, truth be told, when we evaluated Howard's proposal we all got together and ask ourselves, "The price he is charging for the services he is promising seem more like a free lunch. How does he do it?" and we concluded, after a phone conversation, that "He makes his money selecting early stage ideas he likes and then gets post production business from the successful fair rate." We saw it as a loss leader to get new clients.

We were wrong about Howard, and right about there not being a free lunch.

Tolkein
03-11-2015, 06:08 PM
I second that and still no sign of th emoney scammed from me. It just shows what a low life scum bag Howard Sherman is. I requested an immediate cancellation and he refused. He did not deliver and is willing to lie about the matter. To take money of the chronically ill, is just plain low. I don't need that when battling a serious health condition. It appears Howard is determined to let me suffer as he is fully aware of my condition. Thanks for nothing!

Tolkein
03-25-2015, 06:27 PM
Still no sign of the money, that he scammed from an ill crowdfunder. Taking money from the sick and infirm is just about as low as you can get. So how about it scumbag, where is my money?

Pawe? Kwiatkowski
03-26-2015, 06:53 PM
It's a bummer how much people spend just to get some exposure and then realize they ain't gettin any of it.

Amy Thompson
03-26-2015, 06:53 PM
This company could do a ton of good will if it would just refund Tolkein. If they don't have the money to refund that one customer. How can anyone trust them them with to promote a fundraiser worth tens of thousands. If they can't afford to refund a few hundred. Are people really going to trust them with their fundraising accounts. If they refuse to refund a single person. All of these people posting about their negative experience with the company. I just think they would do some great good will by refunding a customer. If they can't.

If it will bankrupt them to do that. Then they really shouldn't be in business in handling other peoples accounts of tens of thousands of dollars. If they are unwilling to refund a few hundred.

Scott Lancaster
03-28-2015, 10:13 PM
Hope you guys got a refund, Thats horrible x

KickstarterPro101
03-29-2015, 06:44 AM
Thanks for this, i was looking at the exact same thing :)

Thank you

Tolkein
03-29-2015, 08:18 PM
No, I did not get a refund. Howard Sherman knows how sick I am and yet he still refuses. I filed a chargeback with my bank, he refused. I filed another chargeback but my bank doesn't like to ask again. They are scumbags

Tolkein
03-29-2015, 08:20 PM
You are spot on here. I realised just after I paid and demanded a cancelation. but Howard Sherman refused as he said that the campaign was live. That is crap butI wanted out as he is quite rude and canktankerous to talkto. This man doesn't give a dam and is willing to take money from the dying and sick to make a living.!

Amy Thompson
03-30-2015, 05:30 AM
You are spot on here. I realised just after I paid and demanded a cancelation. but Howard Sherman refused as he said that the campaign was live. That is crap butI wanted out as he is quite rude and canktankerous to talkto. This man doesn't give a dam and is willing to take money from the dying and sick to make a living.!

Right after you paid. You wanted to cancel. They refused.. I'm trying to remain open minded about the business itself and the people. My family runs a small corporation. I understand what its like to run a business. There have been numerous posts nothing but negative about this company. I sincerely hope they do refund you. They can start to repair their image. Refunding you would go a long way. The sad thing that its dragged out this long they still haven't refunded you. If nothing else they could get good PR. If they don't refund you. I hope more people come forward to share their experience good or bad. Just from outside looking in. It's looking like they are taking peoples money and running.

JVerstry
03-30-2015, 01:43 PM
Many thanks for sharing this info.

seifip
04-03-2015, 08:06 PM
Thanks for the heads up! Just received a message from Crowdfund Buzz on Kickstarter so this is very helpful.

Tolkein
04-07-2015, 09:16 PM
I had somebody phone Howard Sherman to refund me. Apparently they have had problems with IT . They gave assuarances that I would receive a refund this week. I have still yet to see it. I am hopeful thought

Zyane
04-10-2015, 10:39 AM
Hi everyone,

I had the intention to engage Crowdfund Buzz to aid me in my campaign (my first attempt!) which I was intending to launch and wanted to purchase the $349 package.
However, I decided to check up on reviews and found this thread. Of course I started having doubts and decided to cross check with their 'succesful clients'.

And these awesome guys have send me replies that were such a lifesaver:

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0811/3411/files/Screen_Shot_2015-04-10_at_9.22.49_pm.png?7898945345286403627
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0811/3411/files/Screen_Shot_2015-04-10_at_10.36.37_pm.png?17385914813812108200

I have no idea why Crowdfund Buzz is still in business. The high ranking on Google and of course, the 'successful client' list.
But now we can safely assume that these campaigns are successful due to their own merits. We are all here because we need funds to make our dreams a reality.
So we would really appreciate it if companies such as Crowdfund Buzz wouldn't promise a service in which they can't deliver and 'scam' our hardearned cash. We could be better off using the money to fund our own promotion or even to back someone's project. At least it's legitimate and put to a good use.

Anyway kudos to the folks who gave me their advice on Crowdfund Buzz.
Hope this would help anyone else who's considering engaging them! :D

Zyane

Amy Thompson
04-10-2015, 07:36 PM
I had somebody phone Howard Sherman to refund me. Apparently they have had problems with IT . They gave assuarances that I would receive a refund this week. I have still yet to see it. I am hopeful thought

I hope you got your refund, if you didn't keep coming back here at the very least. We would know if they refunded you. I said before how can a person trust them to help run a campaign worth tens of thousands or in some special cases hundreds of thousands if they can't even refund a few hundred dollars in a quick manner. I would liked it better had they already sent the refund. It only takes a few buttons to click refund on Paypal. I just hope this isn't a stone walling tactic where they say they'll refund you, then they never do.

The more negative information we hear about them in this thread. The more worried I get if you'll get your refund. You seem like a nice person. I'm hoping they do honor your refund quickly. I'm glad sites like these exist. Who knows how many more people would dropped hundreds of dollars. Maybe we saved people thousands. At the very least they should honor your refund request. It would generate good PR for them. If they don't shows they you can't trust their word. I'm glad your getting the refund. I really am. I'm just worried it took months to do it. They're still in the process of doing it.

Amy Thompson
04-10-2015, 11:01 PM
I don't want to beat this into the ground. My main concern was that a number of people posted their negative experience with the company. (Not every campaign is going to be a good success) It seemed almost no one had a good experience with the company. I am happy one of the people are getting a refund. My main concern is that they could be doing what they been doing to other people. I looked on their facebook. I noticed they only have about three active projects. I don't know if this thread had anything to do with that. If it did. The company could redeem the situation by doing that one refund they been talking about.

I shared my experience with a friend who's heavy into campaign. He says till they refund that customer. He's going to warn other people about this. To me they should have been professional from the start. If someone wanted to cancel. They should allow it. This is a service cost into the hundreds of dollars. I noticed many people posted their experience, but didn't follow up. I'm hoping this company has big turn around. From a PR point of view. They should refund the people who have asked for it. ASAP. I'll keep checking back to see how this business is doing.

Tolkein
04-11-2015, 12:34 AM
They didn't refund, just as I expected

Amy Thompson
04-11-2015, 01:07 AM
They didn't refund, just as I expected

I'm try to give them the benefit of the doubt. When did they say they would issue the refund. This is what worried me the most. A friend of mine went on their facebook messaged each person they are promoting making them aware of this thread. If they decided to refund then pull out at the last minute. Their are no words to describe that. I'm going to hold back on the urge to call them a shady company. I'm going to give them till this weekend. Maybe they just got busy.

My friend is messaging all the business they are promoting. Making them aware of this thread. When a company says they are going to refund someone. It's basic, you should follow through on that. I don't have experience with this company personally. I hate seeing people ripped off.

Amy Thompson
04-11-2015, 01:15 AM
This is a small sample of unhappy customers. If you haven't read from the start. If they were not so...well greedy, refunded one customer who clearly didn't want their service. That would go a long way. The fact they can't or won't says much about how much money they have in their bank. I'd seriously suggest to Tolekin. That you consider sueing. If they made an agreement. Even a verbal one. They didn't do the services or honor their promise. I believe you can take them to small claims court. I want to remind people. I only see one case they have which BBB got into it.

If you have a strong case. Then file a complaint with the BBB. Should be step two. Step one should be try talking to them and reach a peaceful agreement.


I, too, tried Crowdfundbuzz in April and had zero results.


We ended up getting a refund. They made deadlines they never kept. They wouldn't get back to us when we emailed about the first deadlines not being met. The press release was atrocious. They copy and pasted from my Kickstarter and then the few parts they changed had spelling and grammar errors.


Sorry to hear that, as it sounds exactly like my press release.

Shortly after this post went live, I got a message from Matt Cooke offering a refund as well as a free 'Premium package' for my next campaign. Although I think this is a kind gesture for not failing to provide a service, it does not rectify the issue that many others like myself are effected in others ways than the money lost.

After investing in Crowdfund Buzz, I did expect a lot in return (as advertised!) and ended up 'losing' all the time I had to make my campaign more successful. Had I not discovered Crowdfund Buzz I would probably have been even more active in trying to find other ways of promoting my campaign, perhaps other services or even investing the same money in ads on social media advertising.

As some campaigns are time sensitive, a lot of people lose this time due to relying on a service which doesn't deliver, which in turn results in missed deadlines for which the funding would have been appropriated.


Sorry to hear that, as it sounds exactly like my press release.

Shortly after this post went live, I got a message from Matt Cooke offering a refund as well as a free 'Premium package' for my next campaign. Although I think this is a kind gesture for not failing to provide a service, it does not rectify the issue that many others like myself are effected in others ways than the money lost.

After investing in Crowdfund Buzz, I did expect a lot in return (as advertised!) and ended up 'losing' all the time I had to make my campaign more successful. Had I not discovered Crowdfund Buzz I would probably have been even more active in trying to find other ways of promoting my campaign, perhaps other services or even investing the same money in ads on social media advertising.

As some campaigns are time sensitive, a lot of people lose this time due to relying on a service which doesn't deliver, which in turn results in missed deadlines for which the funding would have been appropriated.


I attempted to use crowd PR guru two weeks into my campaign, they said that it was ok to pay half upfront and the rest at the end of the Indiegogo campaign. So we did so, they said that they were the best in the business and that they didn't just send out press releases but they pitch the story to their contacts. Two weeks passed and no updates and no movement on our side. They claim that they are results driven, when the sites they put you on are fake dormant sites that they've either created or one of their associates have. They send out templates, and are very nonchalant (I know this because one of their colleagues mistakenly sent me an email about another client, and the "pitch" was exactly like ours) This company is a complete utter scam! Like the rest of the crowdfunding PR companies. I'll strongly advise ANYONE that's been approached via their Kickstarter or Indiegogo not to go with them or use them at all! I know that you don't have the money to lose, especially when you are raising funds for your project.

Interesting article, that claims all of their success stories. At least half of them are fake. Worth reading into if the negative feedback from other customers is not enough.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Crowdfund-Buzz/Matawan-New-Jersey-07747/Crowdfund-Buzz-Crowd-Fund-Buzz-CrowdFundBuzz-CrowdFundBuzzcom-Crowdfund-Buzz-worst-crow-1152789

Hertz Nazaire
04-11-2015, 12:40 PM
I got a message from my GoFundMe campaign warning me about seeing a tweet


I feel compelled to write to you. As you are on a tweet that a company known for scamming its customers. There are dozens of unhappy people, not happy with their business and results. There is an entire thread warning about this company here. If you can, cancel now and take your business to a legit company.

CrowdFundScam

Here's the thread detailing each persons experience with the company:

http://crowdfundingforum.com/showthread.php/7742-Beware-the-%E2%80%98Crowdfund-Buzz%E2%80%99-scam


Clearly there are a lot of passionate people following what Crowdfund Buzz does
If I saw this thread before using them I would have think twice about spending all that money
If someone sends me a message when I already questioned myself about this, I am not sure if I would have had
different results using someone else but right now I do not know who I could trust with my money $350 was a lot for me considering what I am trying to do with my project

I am only sad that this is the only direct message I got from the gofundme page
still working hard on my own to reach my goals

What is upsetting to me the most is the Press Release sent out for my Campaign is basically an Ad for for this company instead of my campaign if people care more about calling Crowdfund Buzz a Scam than they cared about my story, I really screwed up here :(

I am not saying that the company did not do what I paid for which was to send out a Press Release but it seems I should have done a little more research people cannot care more about the person sending out your PR than they do your story.

My campaign is stalled right now because I maxed out on my Facebook Friends donations, I continue to share on social media on my own

If you know where I should have taken my business please let me know

Amy Thompson
04-11-2015, 03:19 PM
I got a message from my GoFundMe campaign warning me about seeing a tweet



Clearly there are a lot of passionate people following what Crowdfund Buzz does
If I saw this thread before using them I would have think twice about spending all that money
If someone sends me a message when I already questioned myself about this, I am not sure if I would have had
different results using someone else but right now I do not know who I could trust with my money $350 was a lot for me considering what I am trying to do with my project

I am only sad that this is the only direct message I got from the gofundme page
still working hard on my own to reach my goals

What is upsetting to me the most is the Press Release sent out for my Campaign is basically an Ad for for this company instead of my campaign if people care more about calling Crowdfund Buzz a Scam than they cared about my story, I really screwed up here :(

I am not saying that the company did not do what I paid for which was to send out a Press Release but it seems I should have done a little more research people cannot care more about the person sending out your PR than they do your story.

My campaign is stalled right now because I maxed out on my Facebook Friends donations, I continue to share on social media on my own

If you know where I should have taken my business please let me know

You could post your campaign on this forum. That's for free. Depending on the type of campaign. If its donations only. You can create a small sub section with a thread detailing your campaign. Not everyone that uses Crowd Fund Buzz is in danger of having no work done. I don't want everyone to feel that has already placed money with the company that its doomed. It's just a fraction of the people have not have good experiences. Most recently when they signaled they would be refund a certain customer then didn't. I feel like emotions were running high then.

You can re-post your campaign here. If you're even looking for other people to handle your campaign I know there are dozens of them here handle anywhere from five dollars to three hundred dollars. You just have to look around for the different posts. What I would do is invest in facebook ads or adwords till I know for sure where I wanted to go. Maybe Crowd Fund Buzz isn't so bad. Maybe they will actually do something. I don't want you to feel your campaign is doomed. Just be active with it.

Amy Thompson
04-11-2015, 03:29 PM
I really don't want everyone already in the process of working with the company to have negative emotions. It might work out. What you see in this thread in the most recent few pages. I had assumed Crowd Fund Buzz was willing to refund one customer. (This customer had been waiting for months. When they finally got the yes it was a big deal.) at the end of the week. The company didn't deliver. I suppose that excited some emotions in some people to warn or share about this company if you are already dealing with them. For me, when you give someone your word. If your a corporation you should keep it. (I have no proof that the word was given for the refund.) going off what another poster told me that the refund was supposed to be delivered.

On top of dealing what is already there. It's odd. I'm looking at a youtube video they did years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGtRvQ8m2a8

It says "Scaamm" as the top comment. The second comment site says. "This site is a fraud don't use it" this looks like it was over a year ago from the comments section. Taking a screen shot.

http://i62.tinypic.com/10rk38o.png

Tolkein
04-11-2015, 03:41 PM
You assured my friend that I would be getting a refund. Then you went back on your word. To do this to a seriously ill person is just criminal. Don't you know it is wrong to steal Howard. How about refunding people scumbag

Zyane
04-12-2015, 10:15 AM
So far 5 of their 'successful clients' have gotten back to me and each one of them told me to stay miles away from Crowdfund Buzz.
Hopefully everyone else considering their services would see this thread before committing.

Their ranking on Google is seriously misleading.

Tolkein
04-12-2015, 08:03 PM
Still no word about my money. I am thinking about taking them to the small claims court here. I don't think Howard would turn up in Australia. That is where I live. It is just the inconvenience involved

Tolkein
04-13-2015, 08:02 PM
How did you manage to get a refund. I had a freind to ring them and Howard assured me of a refund, bu then went back on his word.

Amy Thompson
04-14-2015, 11:13 PM
Usually the company will try to gain good PR. It's like when at walmart they have a system for returns. If a story gains traction in the news even if they are in the right legally, or they feel they are in the right. To appease the customer they offer refunds, cash back, etc. They know its worth it to refund an item that may cost them money. Then an unhappy customer attention they will gain. What I'm trying to say with amount of people unhappy with the service in general. Or this is a case of illegal (It's illegal to bait and switch the product) you would think the company CrowdFund Buzz would offer refunds or packages for free. Since the thread started. Tolkein has been very vocal about a refund.

I think it's a shame if someone who works at their company offered or hinted at a refund only to have them stall. It gives them even more negative attention because they were in agreement. Tolkein is deserving of the refund. Saying he/she tried to cancel it. The company told her product was "Live" according from other people they don't deliver on the price they charge.

Amy Thompson
04-14-2015, 11:22 PM
I think this thread should remain here in case of people trying to google the company they at least have a pile of unhappy customers. What they didn't like about the service, what was offered. Crowd Fund Buzz had started to respond then became more and more silent the more people came up and downplaying the entire refund to Tolkein. While its not the service people use its the product. The company should at least have a way of dealing with unhappy customers. From the looks of it, many didn't try for a refund or gave up. I have nothing personally against the company. Just what I read posted from other people, and Tolkein request for a refund. I'm seriously thinking they might either not have the cash to refund her which is scary that a company that promises what they do, don't have any funds.

Or they decided to ignore this thread and Tolkein request for a refund intentionally. At first they were active posting then it died down. In my mind they could reverse the backlash somewhat by giving back even half of what was spent, is better then nothing. No company can be happy when they appear on a "Beware Crowd Fund Buzz" if your new to the thread. I suggest reading from the start. There are some people who didn't go into detail about their experience. Then read the company's reply. Then decide on their own if this company is best suited for them. At the very least we might be saving someone from a three hundred dollar mistake they might regret later. From their youtube that a year ago "Scam" was posted, to people unhappy with them today. I think they should reconsider and grant the refund.

giftsandcoupons
04-21-2015, 06:11 AM
For those who want to get refunded, if you made a claim with Paypal surely you'd get it back? Even creditcards can "chargeback" in some cases.

Amy Thompson
04-21-2015, 11:51 PM
For those who want to get refunded, if you made a claim with Paypal surely you'd get it back? Even creditcards can "chargeback" in some cases.

One of my friends who messaged a client of theirs back and forth got the following message. I thought I'd share it in this forum. I guess they don't do Paypal, which makes their claim even harder to prove and tougher to get their money back. As Toklin has mentioned before she tried to do a charge back through her bank. She tried to cancel the service the moment she sent the money. She was told she couldn't cancel it because her campaign was now "Live" an excuse to hold her money.

She tried to call her back do a charge back. I suppose they spoke to her bank, and it was denied. Then someone from their team tells her they would give her a refund. Only to back out of that promise at the last minute. The email I got from my friend is really shocking. It's very surprising how much money people pay for their services. Really shocking. It's even harder for them to get a refund I bet this service fights them every step of the way. Here's the email my friend got from a current client of Crowd Fund Buzz.

I really wish at this stage this forum would either blacklist them or put them on notice. Getting a single complaint is one thing. Getting numerous complaints from people paying 2 to 7 hundred dollars. Then when they discover its all smoke and mirrors they can't get their money back. It's a complete scam their site. Remember on page 17. The word "Scam" was even written on their youtube page for over a year they didn't even notice it. I already filed a complaint with the FTC (Federal Trade Commission) Here's one of their very unhappy customers.


Hi Amanda, this is really very kind of you.

We paid them $546 for their top PR service package.

And you know what? Roughly a couple of weeks to the close of our campaign,

not even one single piece or a blog post on our project.

We dumped one previous scammer before these guys.

Through PayPal, we got refunded from that scammer. But Howard does not do Paypal.

Getting a refund from him won't be a walk in a park.

Thanks for your concern and consider boosting our moral by contributing:

Here's our campaign link, just in case: prrl.co/merialday

Stay strong, Amanda


Lamine Konkobo

Amy Thompson
04-21-2015, 11:57 PM
It really does break my heart to know that people who paid for their top service. This is an actual customer of theirs. They reporting they haven't gotten a single thing from them. No blog. I only hope this thread serves some purpose to warn people of all the past customers have experience bad customer service and crappy crowd funding service. Not only that but their current customers as well. This person paid five hundred dollars. This company took their money and ran. I was hoping at the very start this corporation would refund that person they said they would.

The news goes from bad to worse, not only are they not refunding that customer they are ripping off people for even more money. Not doing any work. That kinda upsets me an operation like this is able to get so many new customers ripping them off. If you are just reading this thread. Go back to page one, you'll understand what I'm talking about. Dozens of people are unhappy with their service for different reasons. It's too long for me to detail in this one section. One thing for sure. This company looking more and more shady, like a scam everyday. I can't imagine how they get new customers with even current customers are so unhappy. I only hope people read this before buying anything from them.

Tolkein
04-22-2015, 08:10 PM
I asked for a chargeback but Howard Sherman manipulated the back into denying me a chargeback. I am left with nothing. I am still trying to get a refund thought. I emailed Howard, and not a word. They just don't care and willing to rip of someone that is ill. They need to be blacklisted.

Adam
04-23-2015, 03:31 PM
That is a real eye opener. I was worried those to good to be true investors help sites . Thanks that is something to think on.

Phillip
04-25-2015, 09:56 PM
These guys at Crowdfund Buzz are serial scammers, they promise everything and deliver nothing. They hide behind their own BS. Take your money and run

Howard is an arrogant son of a bitch who only believes his own BS

This type of scamming should be stopped

Surely there is some governing body we can report this to so some legal action can be taken against them

Tolkein
04-26-2015, 08:21 PM
I have reported the matter to consumer affairs in New jersey. We need to take action at this group and sue him, jointly. It is the only way to make him pay.

Tolkein
04-26-2015, 08:23 PM
United we stand,divided we fall. The problem is that I don't live in America, otherwise I would be filing documents tomorrow. Any suggestions that as a group we stand up all against him and fight him in the courts.

Tolkein
04-26-2015, 08:23 PM
Come on scumbag where is my money you promised to me via phone.

Zyane
04-27-2015, 11:46 PM
Thankfully for this thread, I have cross-checked with their list of 'successful clients' who all advised me to NEVER engage the services of Crowdfund Buzz. I've thus saved some precious pennies for other marketing efforts to promote my campaign, which have just gone live today. Not trying to be spammy, but here's the link if anyone's interested to check it out: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/occasional-muse-daily-doses-of-positivity/

The goal of my campaign is to raise sufficient funds to transform my Instagram account with positive quotes into a social enterprise, whereby 10-15% of all proceeds will aid underpriviledged children gain easier access to education. If anyone would share their thoughts on it, feel free to drop your comments or contact me directly. I would love to hear your views.

I sincerely hope that everyone who have engaged the services of Crowdfund Buzz would receive their refund. In the worse case scenario, I hope that the goverment would do something about such scam companies asap so that innocent campaigners wouldn't step into the same trap.

Amy Thompson
04-28-2015, 10:38 AM
I think the best response for this would be to expose this company for what is actually is. They kept claiming the bank wouldn't have denied a charge back. If they hadn't put in the work and effort. I say they would. I ordered from a crowd service before. All you have to do is take a picture of a tweet (a screen shot) on their twitter page with your business model and write up an a copy of a PR send it to the bank. Claim you did all the work. What makes this business unique they have a history, a pattern of people claiming they been scammed. This didn't just happen because of this thread.

On their official youtube page they have comments dating back to a year ago with several people writing the words in clear "Scam" and "Stay Away from this company" well before this thread existed. (Screen shot for that is on the other page) then they started to comment, to respond to people here in this thread. Since then its cracked wide open with more people, numerous people claiming this company is a scam. As I mentioned before they were responding. Now they intentionally decided to ignore. The thing that kind unease's me the most. They promised, or someone from their team promised that Tolkin would get a refund, something that never came.

I feel so bad for that poster. I would give them the money they were owed if I had that type of money laying around. I think the best thing is to expose them for what they are, a scam. To spread the word to their "clients" about this thread. Let them make their own minds if this is a company they would want to do business with. The thing I don't understand. If you google this company. The word scam comes up repeated times. I don't know how they are getting new customers. I know how to reach the existing. That's on their twitter page. Simply messaging them with a link to this thread. It would boost up new people signing up on this fourm that didn't it existed and save some potential people some money. I consider that a win/win

Amy Thompson
04-28-2015, 11:33 AM
Thankfully for this thread, I have cross-checked with their list of 'successful clients' who all advised me to NEVER engage the services of Crowdfund Buzz. I've thus saved some precious pennies for other marketing efforts to promote my campaign, which have just gone live today. Not trying to be spammy, but here's the link if anyone's interested to check it out: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/occasional-muse-daily-doses-of-positivity/

The goal of my campaign is to raise sufficient funds to transform my Instagram account with positive quotes into a social enterprise, whereby 10-15% of all proceeds will aid underpriviledged children gain easier access to education. If anyone would share their thoughts on it, feel free to drop your comments or contact me directly. I would love to hear your views.

I sincerely hope that everyone who have engaged the services of Crowdfund Buzz would receive their refund. In the worse case scenario, I hope that the goverment would do something about such scam companies asap so that innocent campaigners wouldn't step into the same trap.

The best way to plug your company would be to add it in as a link in your signature. That way your message about Crowd Fund Buzz doesn't get distorted with talking about your own campaign. I think the most logical way to go is to find their customers inform this about the thread. It could save people a ton of money. Many people have regrets about ordering from this site as this thread as proven. If we can save a single person from losing 300 hundred dollars of their hard earned money. Then I think its worth a try. If your just now coming to this thread. (Meaning this for anyone not just you) you should really check out the front page. There is a pattern that exists. A history from this company. That was born way before we came here. The best thing we can do is to listen to other peoples experiences and inform others about it. There are hundreds of other crowd funding websites and promotions. Yet only one has a history, of being accused of being a scam.

Zyane
04-28-2015, 09:49 PM
The best way to plug your company would be to add it in as a link in your signature. That way your message about Crowd Fund Buzz doesn't get distorted with talking about your own campaign. I think the most logical way to go is to find their customers inform this about the thread. It could save people a ton of money. Many people have regrets about ordering from this site as this thread as proven. If we can save a single person from losing 300 hundred dollars of their hard earned money. Then I think its worth a try. If your just now coming to this thread. (Meaning this for anyone not just you) you should really check out the front page. There is a pattern that exists. A history from this company. That was born way before we came here. The best thing we can do is to listen to other peoples experiences and inform others about it. There are hundreds of other crowd funding websites and promotions. Yet only one has a history, of being accused of being a scam.

Thanks for your advice Amy :) Yeah I have read through this thread from the first page and thus I decided to check directly with their 'successful clients' (who are successful, but with their own merits and efforts). Well I guess the rest of their existing clients have already made the decision and lost their money so just gotta pray that people do their research before taking up offers that sound too good to be true.

ismat
04-30-2015, 02:55 PM
Thanks for informing us!

Ananta
05-01-2015, 03:39 PM
Thanks for lots of helpful information! Did anyone used any commission based service? All companies that I've seen so far are offering only prepaid services. There should to be some companies that would work for percentage...

Amy Thompson
05-01-2015, 04:41 PM
Look what I have here. This site has been promoting it. It has to stop. It needs to stop. I can't support a site that has this as a link on their website. They know of the information. They must protect their customers. They need to stop promoting this site. Maybe crowd fund gives them money. I ask all of you. If you want a site as corrupt as crowd fund buzz getting paid information on this website. It's misleading for information. Toxic at worse. I'm collecting all the information against the company, then make formal plea to the website holder. Then send copies to all crowd funding programs and PR teams. We have a history, a pattern. If crowd fund paying this site for promotion. THat is corruption. Cut ties with the company.

http://www.crowdcrux.com/30-people-to-promote-your-kickstarter-or-indiegogo-campaign-to-on-twitter/

The second site I found is

https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/crowdfund-buzz

Again all compaines with this business shall have signed signatures to the cause of the cancer if thie company. That you do not support it.

Mando1983
05-01-2015, 07:00 PM
I also used a crowdfunding service and got 0 results.

Ciprian D
05-22-2015, 06:26 PM
AS OF MAY 2015 CROWFUNDBUZZ IS STILL A SCAM LIKE BUSINESS.
THEY ARE ONLY INTERESTED WITH YOUR MONEY BUT NOT INTERESTED DO DELIVER WHAT THEY PROMISSED.
NO MATTER WHAT PACKAGE YOU CHOOSE, A PRESS RELEASE IS ALL WHAT YOU GET.
AS jdvos_com told before me, I had no evidence that they sucesfully contacted other journalist or publications.

They refused a refund.
My payment was via PAYPAL, I opened a PAYPAL resolution for money refund, awaithing decision...
I WILL TAKE THE MATTER UP WITH INDIEGOGO, IT IS TIME THEY FILE AND EMAIL YOU A BLACK LIST OF SCAMMERS AFTER STARTING A CAMPAIGN WITH THEM.

Below is the email I sent them which is self explaining:

Howard,

You got me all wrong.
I am not upset for not getting the results I was expecting with INDIEGOGO campaign.
Obviously I still have a lot to learn, this is not the issue here.

I am a very busy person and I trust third parties to help me with tasks that I cannot do myself.
This is the reason I hired your services in the first place.
To my surprise you are blaming me for not reading your blog (altough i did read your blog partly) and not doing my own actions? So you are saying now that I am the reason for your failure to deliver as promissed?

No Howard, I am upset that I paid you 399 USD for a PRO PR package but i received an amateur representation and plenty excuses and a set of tricky written Terms&Conditions.
Terms and conditions (which by the way I did read before I decided to hire you) are restrictive and written in such a way to protect your company interests. I was not surprised, it is something all companies do.
They might help you in court, but not in ONLINE justice.

A PR job is NOT to guarantee donations or money flows but to attract targeted people towards a given project. This is what I was expecting from you. This is why 195 visits in 12 days and 0 (zero) USD donations = 0% conversion rate are seen as a BIG failure for a so called professional PR company and a PRO package. 0% coversion rate means NO TARGETED PEOPLE!! but rather random or even worse, internet robots.

I understand that you cannot guarantee results and so on (many excuses) but your guaranteed "Rapid Turnaround Time (Usually Next Business Day!)" and "Expanded reach of your press release thanks to GUARANTEED placement on over 300 news websites across TV, Radio & Newspaper Plus Industry-Specific Websites as well as personal delivery to thousands of journalists and editors"

Personal delivery, Howard ,to thousands of journalists and editors, do you know what this means?

Where is our rapid turnaround?

When I approached my manager ref your PR company I used the following wording:

"They might not deliver 3000% (not a typo error you said in your introductory presentation Howard), not 100%, not50%, not even 25%,but i believe their actions will suffice to help our cause raise at least the 400 USD we will pay them. If we are lucky we can get more"

In the end you LEGIT business seems more like a nicely wrapped SCAM with a very small core of truth. Your full refund is the only way you can argue that.

This is my third and last email asking for refund, further refusal from your side means (to my understanding) stealing charity money, stealing from helpless disabled children that cannot move, talk, walk and this HOWARD, MATT and CROWFUNDBUZZ STUFF is NOT ACCEPTABLE nor honourable for another human to do. I will make sure this will be known on the internet.
There are 50% chances that Paypal will grant a refund on a customer insatisfaction resolution, have learned that I am not the first to fill one against your company.

My final offer is that you get to keep 50% of the Base Package (the press release is the only thing you or your staff actually did) so it feels honest that you get to keep 100USD and refund 299USD.

You are aware that in this specific point we have nothing to loose anylonger (we already paid you the money) and going futher with this dispute will only induce prejudice on your company side.

Awaithing yours,

Regards


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More than one month and 5897 ‘referrals’ later and not a single contribution (or interaction)…

In this article I will share my experiences with the ‘service’ I received from Crowdfund Buzz after paying for the 98 USD Consultant Package. All information will be factual and will hopefully serve as a warning to others who might be considering www.crowdfundbuzz.com to help promote their crowdfunding campaigns.



On 8 August 2013 I started a campaign on Indiegogo.com titled ‘The Impact Of Dive Tourism On Marine Ecosystems’. This is a very important ongoing environmental project which faced quite a few challenges as the results would not favour those who in some way profit from dive tourism.

Shortly after launching the campaign I received a comment from someone offering to ‘get word out about the project’.

When I discovered she worked for Crowdfund Buzz I googled them and learned of their services. If you are reading this article you have probably already had a look at the list of services they claim to provide. As I am very cautious of investing money in services I know nothing about, and understanding the difficult nature of my campaign I sent this email to Crowdfund Buzz on 8 August 2013:



Hi there

I was contacted by one of your staff (*** ********) through my project on Indiegogo.com and am very interested in the service you offer.Before I invest, if possible I would appreciate it if you could give me a realistic assessment of my site and what results I could expect from your service:

http://igg.me/at/dive-tourism-impact/x/4259068

Any help would be greatly apprciarted,

Kind regards



In reply I received the following email from Crowdfund Buzz Founder, Matt Cooke:



Hello,

I think you have a great project! You also have a realistic funding goal.

Our service specializes in increasing the exposure and visibility of your project. Our current success rate is just over 60%, which is much better than the typical 40% success average. Our service starts at $68 with our most popular package being $98.

The first thing we would do is look over your campaign and make suggestions that have proven to make a difference with successful crowdfunding campaigns.

The next thing we would do is feature your project to the people who follow us on our social media accounts like Twitter and Facebook.

We will also professionally write and distribute a press release for your project. The press release is the best way to attract press and journalist interest in your project. It also helps bring people from news websites and blogs to your project.

We have been very successful with this type of promotion. We know We can help you project. Please reach out to us with any questions.
Thank you,
Matt Cooke



Given this very positive reply from the founder, I decided to go ahead and invest the 98 USD for their premium package…

As part of this package I was assigned an ‘Account Manager’ who was responsible for providing personal service for my campaign as well as writing the press release based on my campaign page at Indiegogo.



Lousy, Incomplete Press Release:

The press release was a poorly ‘copy/pasted’ document and I ended up having to re-write it to include some quite basic but very important omissions. In addition to this the video I included (a crucial part to the press release being successful) was not submitted as part of this release and never showed up in the final issued copy of the release. Follow up emails asking if the video was received and added to the release before the actual release date were completely ignored.



Lots Of Views, Zero Interaction

I soon noticed that I was having no interaction with my project at all (no sponsors, no comments), despite having included everything which supposedly makes a project successful (video, images, good perks etc). I emailed my ‘Account Manager’ to ask what I could do to improve my project as I was getting no suggestions from her side, and the one suggestion consisting of two sentences was very mediocre and obvious – limit the amount of perks. I did this but not surprising, it had no effect. Its interesting to point out that Crowdfund Buzz did not once contact me out of their own accord with suggestions or updates and that I continually had to beg for input and advice…I honestly don’t even know what the deal was with the ‘CrowdFunding Consultant’ I was supposed to receive for my 98 USD, because I had no correspondence with anyone apart from the disinterested ‘Personal Campaign Manager’ and founder Matt Cooke.

The last contact I had with the scarce ‘Account Manager’ was in reply to my concern of the lack of views I was getting via their service to which she replied:

Hello,

The press release typically has the greatest effect on traffic and donations.

Thank you,
L**** G****

This was sent on 21 August, 35 days before the end of my campaign and not a word since!
With a month left to fund the campaign, the final and last correspondence I received from Crowdfund Buzz was in response to an email I sent in reply to the one above as I still saw the same trend as by this time I had several thousand views but no interactions and not a single dollar funded from views generated by Crowdfund Buzz (we will look at the stats shortly). I emailed Matt Cooke again as by this time my ‘Account Manager’ was nowhere to be found and his reply was this:

“…I think your project is really well structured. You have a lot of time left with 34 days. Sometimes people have to see the project a couple of time before they will get involved. We will keep sending qualified traffic*.”

*Note the use of the phrase ‘qualified traffic’, we will come back to this shortly…
Along with this I was finally sent the links to the stats pages used by Crowdfund Buzz to analyse the source and quantity of traffic.

This correspondence was on 23 August, still 33 days before the end of my campaign.



Since then I have tried to contact them on several occasions with simple questions regarding the questionable stats (which we will look at now) to get answers and I have been completely ignored.

scam

/skam/
Noun
A dishonest scheme; a fraud.

Verb
Swindle.



When someone/a company takes payment for services and then consciously decides not to deliver all the services advertised, I consider that to be a scam. So just to be clear: With more than a month left on my campaign, Crowdfund Buzz terminated all correspondence with me (the client) when confronted with simple questions about their service.

So what exactly did I discover which made them so uncomfortable?

Questionable Stats:

Views vs Contributions - In more than one month, Crowdfund Buzz referrals did not result in a single donation…not even a dollar:


Below is the ‘All Time’ stats for my campaign until the date of this article:


Earlier I mentioned Matt Cooke’s use of the term ‘qualified traffic’…

Lets look at the previous statement claiming that most views come from the press release. According to the stats above, of the 6027 referrals in over a month from Crowdfund Buzz, only 750 came from the press release.

What Crowdfund Buzz claims to do is to promote your campaign with relevant viewers who has a shared interest in your campaign. This includes blog writers and journalists who will supposedly write about your campaign. To date, I have not found a single blog or article related to my campaign apart from ones I was responsible for.

So all that is left is the mass of social media views.

Something very important to understand with social media marketing, is that it is only effective if you target your audience. This is a very time consuming process and can be as simple as making sure the target audience are all in the ‘income earning’ bracket (for example older than 20), that they have shared interests in what you are promoting (which in my case would be conservation issues) and that their demographic is relevant to the campaign. For example, there is no point in promoting a ‘stud farm’ campaign in Texas to a 15 year old kid sitting in Luanda, Angola.

So basically I have no idea where the 5277 social media views came from and based on the simple observation that in all the time Crowdfund Buzz were ‘promoting’ my campaign I had NO interaction (comments, questions, donations), I started doubting their relevance as this is definitely NOT ‘qualified traffic’.
The questions I started asking Matt Cooke was based on these stats and also address some of the previous issues:


****

Ciprian D
05-22-2015, 06:48 PM
AS OF MAY 2015 CROWFUNDBUZZ IS STILL A SCAM LIKE BUSINESS.
THEY ARE ONLY INTERESTED WITH YOUR MONEY BUT NOT INTERESTED DO DELIVER WHAT THEY PROMISSED.
NO MATTER WHAT PACKAGE YOU CHOOSE, A PRESS RELEASE IS ALL WHAT YOU GET.
AS jdvos_com told before me, I had no evidence that they sucesfully contacted other journalist or publications.

They refused a refund.
My payment was via PAYPAL, I opened a PAYPAL resolution for money refund, awaithing decision...
I WILL TAKE THE MATTER UP WITH INDIEGOGO, IT IS TIME THEY FILE AND EMAIL YOU A BLACK LIST OF SCAMMERS AFTER STARTING A CAMPAIGN WITH THEM.

Below is the email I sent them which is self explaining:

Howard,

You got me all wrong.
I am not upset for not getting the results I was expecting with INDIEGOGO campaign.
Obviously I still have a lot to learn, this is not the issue here.

I am a very busy person and I trust third parties to help me with tasks that I cannot do myself.
This is the reason I hired your services in the first place.
To my surprise you are blaming me for not reading your blog (altough i did read your blog partly) and not doing my own actions? So you are saying now that I am the reason for your failure to deliver as promissed?

No Howard, I am upset that I paid you 399 USD for a PRO PR package but i received an amateur representation and plenty excuses and a set of tricky written Terms&Conditions.
Terms and conditions (which by the way I did read before I decided to hire you) are restrictive and written in such a way to protect your company interests. I was not surprised, it is something all companies do.
They might help you in court, but not in ONLINE justice.

A PR job is NOT to guarantee donations or money flows but to attract targeted people towards a given project. This is what I was expecting from you. This is why 195 visits in 12 days and 0 (zero) USD donations = 0% conversion rate are seen as a BIG failure for a so called professional PR company and a PRO package. 0% coversion rate means NO TARGETED PEOPLE!! but rather random or even worse, internet robots.

I understand that you cannot guarantee results and so on (many excuses) but your guaranteed "Rapid Turnaround Time (Usually Next Business Day!)" and "Expanded reach of your press release thanks to GUARANTEED placement on over 300 news websites across TV, Radio & Newspaper Plus Industry-Specific Websites as well as personal delivery to thousands of journalists and editors"

Personal delivery, Howard ,to thousands of journalists and editors, do you know what this means?

Where is our rapid turnaround?

When I approached my manager ref your PR company I used the following wording:

"They might not deliver 3000% (not a typo error you said in your introductory presentation Howard), not 100%, not50%, not even 25%,but i believe their actions will suffice to help our cause raise at least the 400 USD we will pay them. If we are lucky we can get more"

In the end you LEGIT business seems more like a nicely wrapped SCAM with a very small core of truth. Your full refund is the only way you can argue that.

This is my third and last email asking for refund, further refusal from your side means (to my understanding) stealing charity money, stealing from helpless disabled children that cannot move, talk, walk and this HOWARD, MATT and CROWFUNDBUZZ STUFF is NOT ACCEPTABLE nor honourable for another human to do. I will make sure this will be known on the internet.
There are 50% chances that Paypal will grant a refund on a customer insatisfaction resolution, have learned that I am not the first to fill one against your company.

My final offer is that you get to keep 50% of the Base Package (the press release is the only thing you or your staff actually did) so it feels honest that you get to keep 100USD and refund 299USD.

You are aware that in this specific point we have nothing to loose anylonger (we already paid you the money) and going futher with this dispute will only induce prejudice on your company side.

Awaithing yours,

Regards


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[QUOTE=jdvos_com;13335]http://jdvos.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/header.jpg
More than one month and 5897 ‘referrals’ later and not a single contribution (or interaction)…

In this article I will share my experiences with the ‘service’ I received from Crowdfund Buzz after paying for the 98 USD Consultant Package. All information will be factual and will hopefully serve as a warning to others who might be considering www.crowdfundbuzz.com to help promote their crowdfunding campaigns.



On 8 August 2013 I started a campaign on Indiegogo.com titled ‘The Impact Of Dive Tourism On Marine Ecosystems’. This is a very important ongoing environmental project which faced quite a few challenges as the results would not favour those who in some way profit from dive tourism.

Shortly after launching the campaign I received a comment from someone offering to ‘get word out about the project’.

When I discovered she worked for Crowdfund Buzz I googled them and learned of their services. If you are reading this article you have probably already had a look at the list of services they claim to provide. As I am very cautious of investing money in services I know nothing about, and understanding the difficult nature of my campaign I sent this email to Crowdfund Buzz on 8 August 2013:




Hi there

I was contacted by one of your staff (*** ********) through my project on Indiegogo.com and am very interested in the service you offer.Before I invest, if possible I would appreciate it if you could give me a realistic assessment of my site and what results I could expect from your service:

http://igg.me/at/dive-tourism-impact/x/4259068

Any help would be greatly apprciarted,

Kind regards



In reply I received the following email from Crowdfund Buzz Founder, Matt Cooke:




Hello,

I think you have a great project! You also have a realistic funding goal.

Our service specializes in increasing the exposure and visibility of your project. Our current success rate is just over 60%, which is much better than the typical 40% success average. Our service starts at $68 with our most popular package being $98.

The first thing we would do is look over your campaign and make suggestions that have proven to make a difference with successful crowdfunding campaigns.

The next thing we would do is feature your project to the people who follow us on our social media accounts like Twitter and Facebook.

We will also professionally write and distribute a press release for your project. The press release is the best way to attract press and journalist interest in your project. It also helps bring people from news websites and blogs to your project.

We have been very successful with this type of promotion. We know We can help you project. Please reach out to us with any questions.
Thank you,
Matt Cooke



Given this very positive reply from the founder, I decided to go ahead and invest the 98 USD for their premium package…

As part of this package I was assigned an ‘Account Manager’ who was responsible for providing personal service for my campaign as well as writing the press release based on my campaign page at Indiegogo.



Lousy, Incomplete Press Release:

The press release was a poorly ‘copy/pasted’ document and I ended up having to re-write it to include some quite basic but very important omissions. In addition to this the video I included (a crucial part to the press release being successful) was not submitted as part of this release and never showed up in the final issued copy of the release. Follow up emails asking if the video was received and added to the release before the actual release date were completely ignored.



Lots Of Views, Zero Interaction

I soon noticed that I was having no interaction with my project at all (no sponsors, no comments), despite having included everything which supposedly makes a project successful (video, images, good perks etc). I emailed my ‘Account Manager’ to ask what I could do to improve my project as I was getting no suggestions from her side, and the one suggestion consisting of two sentences was very mediocre and obvious – limit the amount of perks. I did this but not surprising, it had no effect. Its interesting to point out that Crowdfund Buzz did not once contact me out of their own accord with suggestions or updates and that I continually had to beg for input and advice…I honestly don’t even know what the deal was with the ‘CrowdFunding Consultant’ I was supposed to receive for my 98 USD, because I had no correspondence with anyone apart from the disinterested ‘Personal Campaign Manager’ and founder Matt Cooke.

The last contact I had with the scarce ‘Account Manager’ was in reply to my concern of the lack of views I was getting via their service to which she replied:


Hello,

The press release typically has the greatest effect on traffic and donations.

Thank you,
L**** G****

This was sent on 21 August, 35 days before the end of my campaign and not a word since!
With a month left to fund the campaign, the final and last correspondence I received from Crowdfund Buzz was in response to an email I sent in reply to the one above as I still saw the same trend as by this time I had several thousand views but no interactions and not a single dollar funded from views generated by Crowdfund Buzz (we will look at the stats shortly). I emailed Matt Cooke again as by this time my ‘Account Manager’ was nowhere to be found and his reply was this:


“…I think your project is really well structured. You have a lot of time left with 34 days. Sometimes people have to see the project a couple of time before they will get involved. We will keep sending qualified traffic*.”

*Note the use of the phrase ‘qualified traffic’, we will come back to this shortly…
Along with this I was finally sent the links to the stats pages used by Crowdfund Buzz to analyse the source and quantity of traffic.

This correspondence was on 23 August, still 33 days before the end of my campaign.



Since then I have tried to contact them on several occasions with simple questions regarding the questionable stats (which we will look at now) to get answers and I have been completely ignored.


scam

/skam/
Noun
A dishonest scheme; a fraud.

Verb
Swindle.



When someone/a company takes payment for services and then consciously decides not to deliver all the services advertised, I consider that to be a scam. So just to be clear: With more than a month left on my campaign, Crowdfund Buzz terminated all correspondence with me (the client) when confronted with simple questions about their service.

So what exactly did I discover which made them so uncomfortable?

Questionable Stats:

Views vs Contributions - In more than one month, Crowdfund Buzz referrals did not result in a single donation…not even a dollar:
http://jdvos.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Untitled-2.jpg

Below is the ‘All Time’ stats for my campaign until the date of this article:
http://jdvos.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Untitled-1.jpg

Earlier I mentioned Matt Cooke’s use of the term ‘qualified traffic’…

Lets look at the previous statement claiming that most views come from the press release. According to the stats above, of the 6027 referrals in over a month from Crowdfund Buzz, only 750 came from the press release.

What Crowdfund Buzz claims to do is to promote your campaign with relevant viewers who has a shared interest in your campaign. This includes blog writers and journalists who will supposedly write about your campaign. To date, I have not found a single blog or article related to my campaign apart from ones I was responsible for.

So all that is left is the mass of social media views.

Something very important to understand with social media marketing, is that it is only effective if you target your audience. This is a very time consuming process and can be as simple as making sure the target audience are all in the ‘income earning’ bracket (for example older than 20), that they have shared interests in what you are promoting (which in my case would be conservation issues) and that their demographic is relevant to the campaign. For example, there is no point in promoting a ‘stud farm’ campaign in Texas to a 15 year old kid sitting in Luanda, Angola.

So basically I have no idea where the 5277 social media views came from and based on the simple observation that in all the time Crowdfund Buzz were ‘promoting’ my campaign I had NO interaction (comments, questions, donations), I started doubting their relevance as this is definitely NOT ‘qualified traffic’.
The questions I started asking Matt Cooke was based on these stats and also address some of the previous issues:


****

Amy Thompson
05-24-2015, 12:41 AM
I'm surprised these people are still in business. I thought whoever handles their payment on credit would have gotten tired of all the charge backs. That's exactly what the service does. They charge top drawer services for amateur services like the letter . Their likely going to take a screen shot of it then submit it to Paypal as proof they completed the work. Paypal and banks are not that well versed in crowd funding. If they see a few screen shots one from a twitter account, and PR. They might think services been rendered. However what the company promises is very different from what it actually delivers. I just know how this corporation keeps on getting new customers. Here we have in depth email exchange back and forth.

The owner is clearly being hostile. He's paid to spread the word. Not sit on this thumbs then blame other people. They claim they have a vast network of journalists they can submit the letter too. I hope now people can look at this company with a sober approach. Know that its not a single person. It's a pattern. A history of people with the same problem. It can't all be the customer on every single one of them. This is a very dangerous company. They take hundreds of dollars at a time. They don't submit any work. I ask people submit a complaint via BBB to them as well. Some people don't take the time to write out the complaint it helps. Also submitting a complaint to FTC (Federal Trade Commish) if they get enough complaints they will look into this. I've seen hedge fund managers and owners of shady corporations get taken down by the FTC. The website is clearly Bait and Switch. Which is already illegal in itself. I wish more can be done. As long people keep sharing their stories. We can learn. Hopefully we can save other people from making a mistake.

Amy Thompson
05-24-2015, 12:43 AM
I'm happy at least this thread remains at the very least we can share stories. Learn from other people. It's really scary to look at the above email to know that this corporation is indeed a scam, designed to take your money and run even if you request a refund. They are quick to blame the customer if it doesn't reach the goal. They don't tell you the total lack of effort they put into this. If their being paid hundreds of dollars. At the very least. They should have a team. Someone to handle PR, etc. Seems like they are inflating their charges and actually reducing the amount of work they do.

StateParkers
05-25-2015, 01:32 AM
We had an awesome press release written for our project https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2036491600/state-parkers, but haven't really gotten results. We are new at this so learning a lot. Just need to learn what to watch out for.

Tolkein
05-25-2015, 03:51 AM
I wrote a letter to Howard pleading for my money back.i also had someone ring Howard.there was no response as he is un contactable. I have contacted the police hoping to shut down his website

Tolkein
05-25-2015, 03:55 AM
We need to take legal action, all of us as a group.it is the only way

Amy Thompson
05-28-2015, 08:44 AM
There's other things we can do. I and a friend messaged least five of the projects they are trying to promote. It's only fair I educated them on this company's shady past and history. They can't hide the bad buzz, made matters worse by going back on their word. Their flow of cash and fraud ed customers will die down.

Amy Thompson
05-28-2015, 08:47 AM
I'm going to message more later. I asked them to review this thread. I called the company what it is. Hopefully people will choose another company that doesn't have a history of lying. It's clear they over charge for sub par work. All these people can't be wrong. I'll inform their current customers. Maybe they might listen, save hundreds of dollars in the process.

Amy Thompson
06-10-2015, 12:00 AM
I don't want this to get lost here in all the posts of new threads.

Amy Thompson
06-10-2015, 12:03 AM
If someone has a story to share. Please share it. Dozens of people have shared their personal experiences. Saving other investors hundreds of dollars at a time. I recently called this company. I was on hold. I asked the lady how could they send a copy of their PR to thousands of people. If so would one of those thousands of people send a link to the article when its finished.

Her response was "I don't know" she works at the office. Well enough to repeat their opening lines on Crowd Fund Buzz. She knows the prices. I asked her questions how many articles will this package get me. She kept repeating "I don't know" in my experience scams are there when they include the people who work there with basic information.

Tolkein
06-11-2015, 12:28 AM
I am interested in taking legal action against crowdfund buzz. I live in australia. Amy would you be able to organise something as a group

Amy Thompson
06-13-2015, 08:15 PM
I am interested in taking legal action against crowdfund buzz. I live in australia. Amy would you be able to organise something as a group

I could do that. Normally its a class action lawsuit where several people can sue. The corporation usually sets money aside for this. As with a Jury if they decide in your favor you can get millions of dollars. I suspect they already are violating the law with "Bait and Switch" the lady who took their calls couldn't even describe how this company came to get thousands of journalists emails. If they really is the case. You would think a dozen out of a few thousand would write an article about whatever they are reviewing.

I could sue them. That would be the easy part. To sue them on behalf of you. I'd need printed out emails of you said to cancel and they refused. How you got nothing out of using their service. I'm sure there's something with luring people with disability out of their life savings. So yes it is possible. I'd need some information before I do that.

Amy Thompson
06-13-2015, 08:20 PM
This company had all the time in the world to respond. For the most part they did. They offered a free package worth 599. Yet the person didn't ask for that. Token has been quietly waiting for months for a refund. She even tried to get a refund seconds after she sent the payment. She was told her campaign is now "Live" given the history. I think they just write a PR article charge 400 dollars for that. They take a screen shot. Send it to a few people take a screen shot. This is "Proof of their work they send to the bank" problem is the bank doesn't know it was promised to be sent to "thousands" and not a "few dozen" they likely just took the screen shots.

What they promise is not what they deliver. It's a bit sad. People pay hundreds of dollars at a time. Their most expensive package is 599. They get their hopes up then it turns out they could done exactly the same thing maybe even get better results. They have so many projects. Many as people mentioned are neglected. They close close to offering her a refund. Someone on their team said they would give her one then didn't. To me that's as low as you can get. Remember people to issue a complaint directly to BBB off their website. Only takes a minute. Saves other people by reading your story.

goldenblade
06-18-2015, 10:52 PM
Glad I saw this thread - was going to pay someone to help me ramp up my crowdfunder in its last few days! https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kellsexperience/the-kells-trilogy

Am going to hit the streets instead - door to door, phone calls, email - this is the most terrifying thing I have ever done!

Tolkein
06-23-2015, 08:14 PM
We need to take legal action but as a group. I will give details upon request

Amy Thompson
06-30-2015, 02:09 PM
I found a cool way to bring attention to both the the thread and shady business deals going on. I paid an actor to read a script I wrote. Not saying anything that isn't true. Anything said can be looked up and proven in this thread. If we're going warn people about this company. Need something that catches people's attention for a brief moment. I'm glad this site lets newcomers read this thread. Who knows how many more victims would there be had this thread not been here.

MikeA
06-30-2015, 02:31 PM
I found a cool way to bring attention to both the the thread and shady business deals going on. I paid an actor to read a script I wrote. Not saying anything that isn't true. Anything said can be looked up and proven in this thread. If we're going warn people about this company. Need something that catches people's attention for a brief moment. I'm glad this site lets newcomers read this thread. Who knows how many more victims would there be had this thread not been here.

Hi Amy,

Do you have the video uploaded? Would like to take a look.

DimaSain
07-03-2015, 11:03 AM
Thanks to everyone who wrote reviews and warns newcomers which may be a problem, and what can not be honest people for catching prey in his pocket.

Amy Thompson
07-04-2015, 03:38 PM
Hi Amy,

Do you have the video uploaded? Would like to take a look.

It's going to take a little bit of time the average turn around time is a month but it's supposed look really good. I'm going give them a little script what to say. Just general stuff on here.

Amy Thompson
07-04-2015, 04:11 PM
I just want to be really good before I have it done.

kicklist
07-06-2015, 09:15 PM
Thanks for that - it was a very well-put together piece.

RAW
07-08-2015, 07:10 AM
I found a cool way to bring attention to both the the thread and shady business deals going on. I paid an actor to read a script I wrote. Not saying anything that isn't true. Anything said can be looked up and proven in this thread. If we're going warn people about this company. Need something that catches people's attention for a brief moment. I'm glad this site lets newcomers read this thread. Who knows how many more victims would there be had this thread not been here.

I have used www.fiverr.com for video snippets. My longest one was 9 min and around $100 but there are many good ones. I have had multiple $5 and $10 gigs.

Tolkein
07-21-2015, 08:57 PM
It is a shock to find out that Crowdfunding Buzz has an A rating for business. Someone should report this company to the BBB in the states. We seriously all need to band together and sue this numskull

phil69
07-23-2015, 06:34 AM
I have tried it too as well with no results beware

MikeA
07-26-2015, 03:04 PM
It is a shock to find out that Crowdfunding Buzz has an A rating for business. Someone should report this company to the BBB in the states. We seriously all need to band together and sue this numskull

BBB is notorious for accepting Payment to attain an A+ Plus rating. All you have to do is sign up to a monthly or yearly certification and they clear your record and bump you up to a A+ rating.

Lots of these review site do the same thing, Yelp is another for example. Companies can just pay for a good rating.

MikeA
07-26-2015, 03:04 PM
I have tried it too as well with no results beware

Can you tell us more about your experience? Details? Your crowdfunding project?

Tolkein
08-28-2015, 05:51 PM
We need to take class action and stop this charade

ipeekyouboo
09-06-2015, 08:15 AM
Lucky enough to read about this thread, i was gonna buy their package.

Tolkein
09-08-2015, 12:11 AM
I am trying to get my money back but as yet no luck

CrowdFundBuzz
09-08-2015, 07:59 PM
I second that and still no sign of th emoney scammed from me. It just shows what a low life scum bag Howard Sherman is. I requested an immediate cancellation and he refused. He did not deliver and is willing to lie about the matter. To take money of the chronically ill, is just plain low. I don't need that when battling a serious health condition. It appears Howard is determined to let me suffer as he is fully aware of my condition. Thanks for nothing!

Another lie. Can you publish these emails indicating you canceled immediately?

I'll bet you can't. That's because they don't exist.

I'll also bet that you - and everyone else here - would be shocked by the actual emails we exchanged. Up to and including the consulting you received -- and ignored -- and everything else.

Your relentless smear campaign packed with lies has gone on long enough. You're just piling new lies on top of the old ones to add more fuel to a fire that in a right and just world should've gone out a long time ago.

Publish all of the emails we exchanged and let the world see the truth for themselves.

If you don't publish them then stop already with the endless tirade of deceit. I said it before and I'll say it again -- anyone can say anything and make any wild claim with no basis in truth and not even a single shred of proof.

Prove everything you said. If you don't then you've proven yourself to be the bitter liar you really are.

For those interested in the entire saga - scroll back a few screens and read everything she posted carefully - along with my replies - and watch how more and more elements of false drama are introduced as time goes by.

Howard A. Sherman
http://www.crowdfundbuzz.com
1-(888)-983-1682
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CrowdFundBuzz
09-08-2015, 09:49 PM
BBB is notorious for accepting Payment to attain an A+ Plus rating. All you have to do is sign up to a monthly or yearly certification and they clear your record and bump you up to a A+ rating.

Lots of these review site do the same thing, Yelp is another for example. Companies can just pay for a good rating.


Really? You're actually saying the BBB will accept a bribe or a payoff for a good ranking? That an A+ rating can be purchased AND they'll clear your record?

The fact you are a direct competitor of ours has NOTHING to do with your negative insinuations about our reputation, right? Everyone should naturally accept your opinion as fact that we bought an A+ rating from the BBB, right?

And I'm sure that your being listed on this forum as a "Super Moderator" despite the fact you run a crowdfunding advertising website of your own is merely a coincidence. Call me skeptical but I have every reason to believe you'll delete this post as soon as you see it.

That's why I created a mirror copy of it on my blog -- including the screen shot of this forum proving the post was made - and much, much more than I know wouldn't last 24 hours on this forum.

Now that I cornered you to keep you honest let's put a few questions out there for the world to ponder:

You said that the BBB will accept payments to get an A+ rating. What you said is obviously a lie. Here's the proof:

http://www.bbb.org/dallas/business-reviews/dating-service/matchcom-in-dallas-tx-21002176

Wow! BBB Accredited Status REVOKED for Match.Com. If what you said was true - that anyone can just BUY a BBB A+ rating and get bad records cleared - then why did the Better Business Bureau REVOKE their status?

Match.Com is a MASSIVE dating website that runs commercials on national TV networks every day of the week. Yet despite all of the millions of dollars they rake in and the tons of money they spend on advertising they, according to you, COULDN'T afford to buy a good BBB rating ? Do you seriously expect people to believe that?

You're basically saying they couldn't afford the BBB's rates for A+ status -- yet they easily could.

For those who are curious -- Match.Com is owned by a MASSIVE corporation called InterActiveCorp. They are a publicly traded company on the NASDAQ stock exchange with stock symbol IAC

Check them out here - http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/IACI and see their market capitalization is 5.71 BILLION dollars.

And on this link you'll see they earned 3.11 BILLION dollars in gross sales in 2014 - http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/IACI/financials

So how is it that a company that clocked over 3 BILLION DOLLARS in revenue couldn't just buy their BBB A+ rating as you said anyone can? Why did the BBB revoke the accredited status of a website owned by a multi-billionaire company?

What's your answer? They couldn't afford it?

Does it annoy you to know that the BBB actually DOES its job in keeping the Internet honest and has the ethical standards to refuse any amount of money from a website that doesn't act in good faith?

You're a complete joke "Mike Ayudos". I'm laughing as I type this. All anyone has to do is look at your "Super Moderator" status on this forum and your ownership of your own crowdfunding promotion firm then quickly reach an inescapable conclusion as to your true motives.

You know what... I'm going to stop right here as I dug up so much dirt on the owner(s) of this crowdfunding forum I haven't got a doubt in my mind this post will be deleted if I continued any further.

It might still be deleted based on the facts I've revealed so far.

... to be continued elsewhere.

Howard A. Sherman
http://www.crowdfundbuzz.com
1-(888)-983-1682
Member of the Public Relations Society of America
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Amy Thompson
09-08-2015, 10:53 PM
Another lie. Can you publish these emails indicating you canceled immediately?

I'll bet you can't. That's because they don't exist.

I'll also bet that you - and everyone else here - would be shocked by the actual emails we exchanged. Up to and including the consulting you received -- and ignored -- and everything else.

Your relentless smear campaign packed with lies has gone on long enough. You're just piling new lies on top of the old ones to add more fuel to a fire that in a right and just world should've gone out a long time ago.

Publish all of the emails we exchanged and let the world see the truth for themselves.

If you don't publish them then stop already with the endless tirade of deceit. I said it before and I'll say it again -- anyone can say anything and make any wild claim with no basis in truth and not even a single shred of proof.

Prove everything you said. If you don't then you've proven yourself to be the bitter liar you really are.

For those interested in the entire saga - scroll back a few screens and read everything she posted carefully - along with my replies - and watch how more and more elements of false drama are introduced as time goes by.

Howard A. Sherman
http://www.crowdfundbuzz.com
1-(888)-983-1682
Member of the Public Relations Society of America
Follow Us on Twitter - https://twitter.com/icrowdfundbuzz
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I sense that you are being a bit hostile in your post I don't think anyone would disagree with me there. This is the first time in several months that you bothered to post anything. I have been following this thread since the very start. Part of the the entire reason why one of these posters are so upset because it seems that they tried to cancel then get their money back right away. You told them their campaign was now live. If you felt the poster was not being honest. Why exactly did you wait over four months to reply to the poster.

Also why did you or someone from your office promised that the person would get a refund of the money they spent Then complete silence for months. It almost seems like you were trying to ignore the person on purpose in hopes they would simply go away. If you were this heated about the person releasing the emails you would said this since day one. There is truth in what you say in "anyone can say anything on the internet" however sadly we don't have a single person here who feels like they were cheated out of their money. We have least a dozen people here with the same exact story. They paid your company for services they never got, some barely got any emails back expect to cancel. Most of whom try to cancel couldn't and most who did a charge back they couldn't.

Many people were unhappy customers, some people went into great detail about how and why they feel money was taken from there. For several months you didn't say a word. People other then her came here posted their experience with the company. Most of whom was negative. You can't just tell someone that you haven't spoken in months to publish all the emails they wrote months ago or to be quiet. It simply doesn't work that way from the length of time you took to respond to other people sharing the same experience. I always said at least this thread is here. If it does help save you from taking one more person's money if it actually saves one person from being ripped off. It's a great idea.

What really makes me uncomfortable that you must have been following this thread for months. This had to be placing something on your business. It's not long it's full of people lying. Most people have had an experience with your company they are simply sharing what it is. I don't think its even a little fair you ask someone to turn off their review because you don't personally like it. Your a business. You are supposed to make your company even better. If you simply would have refunded people when you claimed or your office claimed they would. You wouldn't have such unhappy customers.

Amy Thompson
09-08-2015, 11:02 PM
Really? You're actually saying the BBB will accept a bribe or a payoff for a good ranking? That an A+ rating can be purchased AND they'll clear your record?

The fact you are a direct competitor of ours has NOTHING to do with your negative insinuations about our reputation, right? Everyone should naturally accept your opinion as fact that we bought an A+ rating from the BBB, right?

And I'm sure that your being listed on this forum as a "Super Moderator" despite the fact you run a crowdfunding advertising website of your own is merely a coincidence. Call me skeptical but I have every reason to believe you'll delete this post as soon as you see it.

That's why I created a mirror copy of it on my blog -- including the screen shot of this forum proving the post was made - and much, much more than I know wouldn't last 24 hours on this forum.

Now that I cornered you to keep you honest let's put a few questions out there for the world to ponder:

You said that the BBB will accept payments to get an A+ rating. What you said is obviously a lie. Here's the proof:

http://www.bbb.org/dallas/business-reviews/dating-service/matchcom-in-dallas-tx-21002176

Wow! BBB Accredited Status REVOKED for Match.Com. If what you said was true - that anyone can just BUY a BBB A+ rating and get bad records cleared - then why did the Better Business Bureau REVOKE their status?

Match.Com is a MASSIVE dating website that runs commercials on national TV networks every day of the week. Yet despite all of the millions of dollars they rake in and the tons of money they spend on advertising they, according to you, COULDN'T afford to buy a good BBB rating ? Do you seriously expect people to believe that?

You're basically saying they couldn't afford the BBB's rates for A+ status -- yet they easily could.

For those who are curious -- Match.Com is owned by a MASSIVE corporation called InterActiveCorp. They are a publicly traded company on the NASDAQ stock exchange with stock symbol IAC

Check them out here - http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/IACI and see their market capitalization is 5.71 BILLION dollars.

And on this link you'll see they earned 3.11 BILLION dollars in gross sales in 2014 - http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/IACI/financials

So how is it that a company that clocked over 3 BILLION DOLLARS in revenue couldn't just buy their BBB A+ rating as you said anyone can? Why did the BBB revoke the accredited status of a website owned by a multi-billionaire company?

What's your answer? They couldn't afford it?

Does it annoy you to know that the BBB actually DOES its job in keeping the Internet honest and has the ethical standards to refuse any amount of money from a website that doesn't act in good faith?

You're a complete joke "Mike Ayudos". I'm laughing as I type this. All anyone has to do is look at your "Super Moderator" status on this forum and your ownership of your own crowdfunding promotion firm then quickly reach an inescapable conclusion as to your true motives.

You know what... I'm going to stop right here as I dug up so much dirt on the owner(s) of this crowdfunding forum I haven't got a doubt in my mind this post will be deleted if I continued any further.

It might still be deleted based on the facts I've revealed so far.

... to be continued elsewhere.

Howard A. Sherman
http://www.crowdfundbuzz.com
1-(888)-983-1682
Member of the Public Relations Society of America
Follow Us on Twitter - https://twitter.com/icrowdfundbuzz
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I been away for several months most recently myself. I had my computer actually drop then break down. It took months to find the parts. I sent someone some money on Fiverr to play a small part just detailing what other people written here then place it into a cute 30 second add. People have already created this thread to warn other people of the very real danger of overpaying to a corporation that simply will not deliver on the promises that it offers. I called your line myself when you were out of the office. I asked the woman that works for you. If you literally had thousands of contacts. She said "I don't know" or when I asked her how many it would be sent to.

I think it's very disgusting you would focus on something she wrote about the BBB however you would still ignore her request for a refund. You simply cannot come back here with that condescending tone then ignore the entire part about you promising a person a refund or your office then not only ignore that request. But insulting the person who has the emails back and forth with you. Then somehow if they don't share these emails you want them to stop talking about it.

To me that is very share. It says you don't want other people knowing. It's actually very shocking you would come on here. Not only insulting fellow posters also the super mods on this forum. It's very unprofessional and rude behavior. I have decided to take a screen shot I remember how in the past. I don't recall the person's name off hand. You and someone traded insults. Then you edited it out and scrubbed it clean. I want people to have a look at who they are giving their money too. I don't think most people would feel comfortable knowing the person is short tempered and how their personality is.

CrowdFundBuzz
09-08-2015, 11:36 PM
Bravo! You started twisting my words right out of the starting gate with "I sense that you are being a bit hostile in your post...."

What's hostile about demanding proof of what Tolkein stated has happened? This ties in to what I said months ago on the very same subject.

She hasn't posted any proof all this time because she can't. Why? Because everything she claimed is a lie. We have time and date stamped emails of all of our dialog. She never emailed us at ANY time to cancel her order and NOBODY told her she'd be getting a refund.

What's hostile about prompting everyone to review the history of this thread and see for themselves how she's changed her story as time went on?

ALSO -- You lied again in this quote - "I don't think its even a little fair you ask someone to turn off their review because you don't personally like it."

I didn't ask her to do anything of the kind. I just asked her - once again - to provide proof to substantiate her statements.

And you continue the charade with your quote - "What really makes me uncomfortable that you must have been following this thread for months"

I MUST have been? Can you prove that? Can anybody? No, they can't.

That's because the simple fact is that I had the inkling to check in out of pure curiosity as I used to receive email notifications of forum activity and haven't in a long time. I haven't read a single word of this forum for months and months. And thanks to you I am clearly reminded of why I stayed away so long.

I bailed out of here months ago and - thanks to you and everything else I've seen -- my initial decision was the right one. This forum is clearly nothing more than a snake pit.

People - as you put it - went into great detail, etc. etc. - so did I as well as Matt Cooke. All of our details, facts and documentation was ignored as the "anti crowdfundbuzz" drum beat continue unabated.

Oh - and by the way - you told another lie with implying we have so many unhappy customers. There hasn't been a new complaint on this forum in several months. And when there were complaints, almost ALL of them could not be substantiated with any documentation whatsoever. Were any of those complaints genuine in any way? I strongly suspect they weren't thanks to -- yet again - the fact that when asked to present proof of their claim and actually document their dissatisfaction -- none was presented.

We can dismiss Leanne Schroeder (Tolekin) as she is a perennial sour puss who placed her order on June 23, 2014 and now well over one year later - still goes on and on and on despite everything we already provided in terms of proof. She lied about everything she said -- has never proven even ONE of her claims -- and still and all she's given the center stage with a spotlight on her as this audience hands her Kleenex for her crocodile tears and warm applauds for the "horrible experience she's been forced to endure."

Nice try on your part to warp reality and manipulate the facts. Still and all - an epic fail.

Yep. I really am done this time. And the posters to this forum - you included - made my decision much, much easier.

I can't help but smile at how much you validated everything I concluded months ago.

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CrowdFundBuzz
09-08-2015, 11:45 PM
I been away for several months most recently myself. I had my computer actually drop then break down. It took months to find the parts. I sent someone some money on Fiverr to play a small part just detailing what other people written here then place it into a cute 30 second add. People have already created this thread to warn other people of the very real danger of overpaying to a corporation that simply will not deliver on the promises that it offers. I called your line myself when you were out of the office. I asked the woman that works for you. If you literally had thousands of contacts. She said "I don't know" or when I asked her how many it would be sent to.

I think it's very disgusting you would focus on something she wrote about the BBB however you would still ignore her request for a refund. You simply cannot come back here with that condescending tone then ignore the entire part about you promising a person a refund or your office then not only ignore that request. But insulting the person who has the emails back and forth with you. Then somehow if they don't share these emails you want them to stop talking about it.

To me that is very share. It says you don't want other people knowing. It's actually very shocking you would come on here. Not only insulting fellow posters also the super mods on this forum. It's very unprofessional and rude behavior. I have decided to take a screen shot I remember how in the past. I don't recall the person's name off hand. You and someone traded insults. Then you edited it out and scrubbed it clean. I want people to have a look at who they are giving their money too. I don't think most people would feel comfortable knowing the person is short tempered and how their personality is.

Wow. You're totally mixing up my reply to Mike Ayudos with my reply to Tolkein.

[ blinks in astonishment ]

I am... amazed.

And you're also lying about this fictional claim you said we made that we have thousands of contacts. We never, ever claimed any such thing.

And now you're warping things entirely with this quote of yours "I think it's very disgusting you would focus on something she wrote about the BBB however you would still ignore her request for a refund." Holey moley! She didn't write ANYTHING about the BBB -- Mike did! I just called him out on his obvious lie with abundant, documented proof of the truth.

And I never ignored her request for a refund. I keep asking for any proof of anything she's claiming and - a year later -- there's no proof. Yet you guys just keep on going on with your support of her despite the fact she hasn't ever validated a single thing she claimed.

What's the game here, really?

And yet another lie -- I never scrubbed any post I made and I don't have any recollection of insulting someone.

Unless you have the notion that truth and fact are insulting things....

Wow.

I am totally done here. Any further exposure to this Bizarro world might make my head explode.

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Amy Thompson
09-08-2015, 11:57 PM
Wow. You're totally mixing up my reply to Mike Ayudos with my reply to Tolkein.

[ blinks in astonishment ]

I am... amazed.

And you're also lying about this fictional claim you said we made that we have thousands of contacts. We never, ever claimed any such thing.

And now you're warping things entirely with this quote of yours "I think it's very disgusting you would focus on something she wrote about the BBB however you would still ignore her request for a refund." Holey moley! She didn't write ANYTHING about the BBB -- Mike did! I just called him out on his obvious lie with abundant, documented proof of the truth.

And I never ignored her request for a refund. I keep asking for any proof of anything she's claiming and - a year later -- there's no proof. Yet you guys just keep on going on with your support of her despite the fact she hasn't ever validated a single thing she claimed.

What's the game here, really?

And yet another lie -- I never scrubbed any post I made and I don't have any recollection of insulting someone.

Unless you have the notion that truth and fact are insulting things....

Wow.

I am totally done here. Any further exposure to this Bizarro world might make my head explode.

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I am frankly surprised you would be that sarcastic and rude to one of the people who bought a service from you. She said that someone from your office said they would issue a refund before the end of the day. Then the refund was never granted. If you are really as successful as you claim. Would it really be a big deal to refund someone for a campaign. I don't think it really would be. Fact is you or someone from your office over the phone said they would issue a refund. Now you are acting like this is the first time you are hearing about it. You must have been silently following this thread for months. Now you want her to issue proof that you said that over the phone.

When you were out of the office. That one lady said that if a campaign was made with you. You would send them to "thousands of contacts" that included journalist and people who worked for advertising agency. I bet if she knew you would ask her for proof of a phone call she might have recorded it. Even if you are insulting Just Mike. I mean you are a corporation. Aren't you supposed to rise above that or at least issue a refund to the customer. I bet it would be worth it in return for a happy customer.

Amy Thompson
09-09-2015, 12:10 AM
Bravo! You started twisting my words right out of the starting gate with "I sense that you are being a bit hostile in your post...."

What's hostile about demanding proof of what Tolkein stated has happened? This ties in to what I said months ago on the very same subject.

She hasn't posted any proof all this time because she can't. Why? Because everything she claimed is a lie. We have time and date stamped emails of all of our dialog. She never emailed us at ANY time to cancel her order and NOBODY told her she'd be getting a refund.

What's hostile about prompting everyone to review the history of this thread and see for themselves how she's changed her story as time went on?

ALSO -- You lied again in this quote - "I don't think its even a little fair you ask someone to turn off their review because you don't personally like it."

I didn't ask her to do anything of the kind. I just asked her - once again - to provide proof to substantiate her statements.

And you continue the charade with your quote - "What really makes me uncomfortable that you must have been following this thread for months"

I MUST have been? Can you prove that? Can anybody? No, they can't.

That's because the simple fact is that I had the inkling to check in out of pure curiosity as I used to receive email notifications of forum activity and haven't in a long time. I haven't read a single word of this forum for months and months. And thanks to you I am clearly reminded of why I stayed away so long.

I bailed out of here months ago and - thanks to you and everything else I've seen -- my initial decision was the right one. This forum is clearly nothing more than a snake pit.

People - as you put it - went into great detail, etc. etc. - so did I as well as Matt Cooke. All of our details, facts and documentation was ignored as the "anti crowdfundbuzz" drum beat continue unabated.

Oh - and by the way - you told another lie with implying we have so many unhappy customers. There hasn't been a new complaint on this forum in several months. And when there were complaints, almost ALL of them could not be substantiated with any documentation whatsoever. Were any of those complaints genuine in any way? I strongly suspect they weren't thanks to -- yet again - the fact that when asked to present proof of their claim and actually document their dissatisfaction -- none was presented.

We can dismiss Leanne Schroeder (Tolekin) as she is a perennial sour puss who placed her order on June 23, 2014 and now well over one year later - still goes on and on and on despite everything we already provided in terms of proof. She lied about everything she said -- has never proven even ONE of her claims -- and still and all she's given the center stage with a spotlight on her as this audience hands her Kleenex for her crocodile tears and warm applauds for the "horrible experience she's been forced to endure."

Nice try on your part to warp reality and manipulate the facts. Still and all - an epic fail.

Yep. I really am done this time. And the posters to this forum - you included - made my decision much, much easier.

I can't help but smile at how much you validated everything I concluded months ago.

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It's not what you are saying. It's how you are saying it how you coming across. Let's look at something you said. "I can't but smile how much you validated everything I concluded months ago" you have not said what you thought months ago. This is the first time seeing you in at least four months. While people have been posting and responding to this. It does look very suspicious you would vanish one day without a word then to show up then claim everyone is lying expect for you.

These people have commented haven't been a single poster. Several people who simply posted once their horror stories. Does that make everyone else incorrect. Of course not. There is a proven pattern here. People who made an order with your company and those who wished they hadn't. Some of the stuff you claim on your website. You don't actually deliver. Many people have said you don't answer messages then after they pay they are pretty much on your own. A person here even checked out your success story on your website some of the people there warn people from using your site.

You say there hasn't been a new complaint in months. I could go to your youtube page it said right in the comments. I took a screen shot of it. It said "Scam" it had been left there for at least a year. I don't think this place is a snake pit your site is the only one out of all the others that gave generated that much negative feedback. There has been many complaints by at least a dozen people who wouldn't know that by visiting your site. It isn't just from a single person. It's from several people many of whom have nothing to gain. If you felt someone was lying you could come back here months ago. The fact that so many people issued complaints that you were silent for just so long it looks very shady and misleading business practices. I'm just curious if everyone here is lying. Someone posted screen shots etc.

MikeA
09-09-2015, 04:20 AM
Really? You're actually saying the BBB will accept a bribe or a payoff for a good ranking? That an A+ rating can be purchased AND they'll clear your record?

The fact you are a direct competitor of ours has NOTHING to do with your negative insinuations about our reputation, right? Everyone should naturally accept your opinion as fact that we bought an A+ rating from the BBB, right?

And I'm sure that your being listed on this forum as a "Super Moderator" despite the fact you run a crowdfunding advertising website of your own is merely a coincidence. Call me skeptical but I have every reason to believe you'll delete this post as soon as you see it.

That's why I created a mirror copy of it on my blog -- including the screen shot of this forum proving the post was made - and much, much more than I know wouldn't last 24 hours on this forum.

Now that I cornered you to keep you honest let's put a few questions out there for the world to ponder:

You said that the BBB will accept payments to get an A+ rating. What you said is obviously a lie. Here's the proof:

http://www.bbb.org/dallas/business-reviews/dating-service/matchcom-in-dallas-tx-21002176

Wow! BBB Accredited Status REVOKED for Match.Com. If what you said was true - that anyone can just BUY a BBB A+ rating and get bad records cleared - then why did the Better Business Bureau REVOKE their status?

Match.Com is a MASSIVE dating website that runs commercials on national TV networks every day of the week. Yet despite all of the millions of dollars they rake in and the tons of money they spend on advertising they, according to you, COULDN'T afford to buy a good BBB rating ? Do you seriously expect people to believe that?

You're basically saying they couldn't afford the BBB's rates for A+ status -- yet they easily could.

For those who are curious -- Match.Com is owned by a MASSIVE corporation called InterActiveCorp. They are a publicly traded company on the NASDAQ stock exchange with stock symbol IAC

Check them out here - http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/IACI and see their market capitalization is 5.71 BILLION dollars.

And on this link you'll see they earned 3.11 BILLION dollars in gross sales in 2014 - http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/IACI/financials

So how is it that a company that clocked over 3 BILLION DOLLARS in revenue couldn't just buy their BBB A+ rating as you said anyone can? Why did the BBB revoke the accredited status of a website owned by a multi-billionaire company?

What's your answer? They couldn't afford it?

Does it annoy you to know that the BBB actually DOES its job in keeping the Internet honest and has the ethical standards to refuse any amount of money from a website that doesn't act in good faith?

You're a complete joke "Mike Ayudos". I'm laughing as I type this. All anyone has to do is look at your "Super Moderator" status on this forum and your ownership of your own crowdfunding promotion firm then quickly reach an inescapable conclusion as to your true motives.

You know what... I'm going to stop right here as I dug up so much dirt on the owner(s) of this crowdfunding forum I haven't got a doubt in my mind this post will be deleted if I continued any further.

It might still be deleted based on the facts I've revealed so far.

... to be continued elsewhere.

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Hey Howard,

I was just making a statement about true stories that have been reported online and in news in the past about the BBB. Not all BBB offices in the country are the same. Some have been involved in scandals about bribery.

I didn't make any comments directed towards you or Crowdfundbuzz and don't know you or how you run your business.

I've been a moderator here since before you were even in charge of CrowdfundBuzz and have never attacked your business in any way.

Why do you feel the need to attack me? I've spoken to the "owner/creator" of this site only a few times since I signed up years ago. I became a super moderator by being helpful and offering feedback and advice to crowdfunders over a long period of time.

There are people here with grievances with Crowdfundbuzz. Bad mouthing people and posting personal information is not going to help anyone.

Amy Thompson
09-10-2015, 06:38 AM
Hey Howard,

I was just making a statement about true stories that have been reported online and in news in the past about the BBB. Not all BBB offices in the country are the same. Some have been involved in scandals about bribery.

I didn't make any comments directed towards you or Crowdfundbuzz and don't know you or how you run your business.

I've been a moderator here since before you were even in charge of CrowdfundBuzz and have never attacked your business in any way.

Why do you feel the need to attack me? I've spoken to the "owner/creator" of this site only a few times since I signed up years ago. I became a super moderator by being helpful and offering feedback and advice to crowdfunders over a long period of time.

There are people here with grievances with Crowdfundbuzz. Bad mouthing people and posting personal information is not going to help anyone.

I think Howard knows that. As soon as he posted that comment Howard immediately took a screen shot of what he posted publishing it on his site. This isn't the first time Howard has threatened to publish the personal information of someone he disagreed with. I recall him several months back arguing with someone back and forth. I didn't catch everything they said by the time I read it it was heavily edited. I did see glimpse of Howard complaining about people effecting his business then he published some information of a former client. (Howard's done this type of stuff before)

Instead of listening to the customers he should have done almost a year ago. Focused on the problem then issued a refund. Several people have different complaints he acts like we all joined forces simply to make his company look bad. It's not just this forum where his business has complaints. It's on rip off report etc. Just googling their name Crowd Fund Buzz in the search engine several listings come up with the word scam.

I feel like instead of looking at the complaints. Then doing the professional thing as in customer service to find out why the client was unhappy. If possible issue a refund. Instead of doing that he's mocking the people asking for a refund. Demanding evidence that he said he would give any type of refund. (He knows it was done over the Phone) this is an effort for him to post this on his site as some weak attempt to try fool people trying to discredit them by claiming we have no evidence and calling us the Anti Crowd Fund Buzz Crowd. I feel like people have a right to inform other people and complain if the services they paid for (according to his site. His services range all the way up to almost six hundred dollars for things he doesn't perform)

If Howard was serious about looking into the complaints. He would have PM'ed the people impacted. Offered them a refund or something besides ignoring them. Howard's personality seems a bit off he seems very defensive. Due to the fact he hadn't commented on here in several months. Then once he did comment he immiedtially took screen shots for his site leads me to believe he wasn't being sincere to resolve conflicts. I paid someone 20 bucks a few months ago to make an AD about the very real dangers of his website and the people impacted. Nothing fiction. Not making any stories up. Just giving a face to all these people who have been victims of this.

It was for a public service. I'm going to see if I can get the video. I'm personally happy we have a place like a site like this. Where people can voice their own train of thought. Now we learned there are several people out there who had the same bad experience. They can't all be mistaken. I'm going to keep informing people of the dangers of his site. His false promises and concerning personality a little unprofessional companies like this who charge outrageous fees for services they don't even complete makes everyone look bad. I'll let everyone know when I make the video. Despite what he says. There are several people being ripped off. If we can help save one person. Then its worth something.

This is list of other complaints on other websites:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Crowdfund-Buzz/Matawan-New-Jersey-07747/Crowdfund-Buzz-Crowd-Fund-Buzz-CrowdFundBuzz-CrowdFundBuzzcom-Crowdfund-Buzz-worst-crow-1152789

http://www.scamorg.com/crowdfund-buzz-d1

This is a screen shot. I have just taken today. Remember when I informed Howard about the word scam written over that youtube channel. Well it's still there. Notice the word Scam written twice by two separate users. This was over a year ago it's been on there for.


http://i57.tinypic.com/11h9wte.png

Tolkein
09-10-2015, 07:57 PM
Kindly attach the documents regarding the work.

I would like you to contact Howard Shermnan from crowdfundingbuzz.com who scammed me out of ovwe 3400us. I wanted to cancel this venture straight away but Sherman refused. I tried to file a chargeback but Sherman manipulated the bank so I lost my $. Look on crowfunding forman to see what I mean and rip off report.to take $ from someone that is seriously I'll is low and I am pleading to get my $ back




Order Started

anilgoyal will soon start working on your order.

This order is expected to be delivered on April 04, 2015.

13:25April 02, 2015


anilgoyal
anilgoyal


Kindly attach all the information regarding the campaign.
Thanks

13:25April 02, 2015



Me


The refund is to be sent to lschroder65 at optusnet dot com dot au. P ay pal address.

13:26April 02, 2015
Me


https://crowdfundbuzz.com. Here is the company site

13:30April 02, 2015



Me


http://crowdfundingforum.com/showthread.php/7742-Beware-the-%E2%80%98Crowdfund-Buzz%E2%80%99-scam/page16. I am not the only one Howard Sherman has scammed.i just want the $ back

13:40April 02, 2015


anilgoyal
anilgoyal


I am sorry to hear about it.

13:50April 02, 2015


anilgoyal
anilgoyal


I will try my best to get money back. Thanks

13:50April 02, 2015


anilgoyal
anilgoyal


i have contacted him. he will pay you next week. he said that his IT expert made some mistake in his system and he is trying to fix the problem related to web portal. He is collecting all customer's e mail addresses.
thanks

16:45April 04, 2015



HERE'S YOUR DELIVERY!

This order will be marked as complete in 3 days.

anilgoyal
anilgoyal


thanks

16:45April 04, 2015



Me


Thanks so much. Have a great easter
Here is the proof you have been waiting for. It was a phone call made and crowdfundbuzz assured the person who called on my behalf that I would get a refund the following week. That never happened

Tolkein
09-10-2015, 07:58 PM
I may be a sour puss but I know I am in the right. This is for everyone to see what a low life scumbag you really are. How about doing the right thing for once instead of being such a tight arse.

Tolkein
09-13-2015, 08:10 PM
Howard was contacted again by Candy who is a mediator. Once again Howard refused and made out I did not follow his instructions. Howard also had the cheek to imply that it is over a year ago. Yes that is true but why doesn't this tight wad do something about it and refund my money ASAP. That is all I ask. Surely it cannot be that difficult to refund.

Tolkein
09-13-2015, 08:18 PM
I Called Mr. Sherman four (4) times today at 8:30am 8:59am, 9:09am, and at 11:19am.

Mr. Sherman returned my Call at approximately 11:30am. At this time I explained to him that I was representing you and was requesting a refund of moneys that have been paid over to him via crowd fund. In the amount of $300. He corrected saying it was $349.

He also inquired how much you were Paying me. I did not reply to that question

Mr. Sherman informed me that on the contract it was stated that there will be no refund for services. As services are very tedious and time consuming.

He also said that services were rendered to you in the form of Press release. Promotion, and consultation. He also stated that you chose to ignore consultation that you were given, and that you did not change your campaign as per your consultation.

He said you received all these services well up to 90 days, and that you had already tried to receive moneys back from the bank. He said he provided all valid information to the bank, which the bank allowed him to keep the funds, as he was able to prove that services were rendered.

He also stated that this matter is over a year old. And he will not be issuing any form of reimbursement.

He contends that he has rendered services to you, which you did not take advantage of and are now still requesting refund.

He stated that you received all emails and confirmation of emails in regards to his services.

He said you mailed him yesterday, and he just ignored your email.

Please note that these are all the information that I received from Mr. Sherman himself. None of the above statements are my person views, words or anything of that nature. It is all the information the same as Mr. Sherman has given to me. I am just giving you a report and feedback based on notes I took while he was on the phone. This is the full report. It just shows you what a lowlife you are dealing with

Tolkein
09-13-2015, 08:20 PM
How low can you get Howard? It is not only me but the other people you have scammed. Isn't it time you stepped up and did the right thing? I think so. Taking money from people constitutes the criminal offence of theft. So do the right thing unless you want to be charged with wire fraud.

Amy Thompson
09-14-2015, 10:40 PM
I Called Mr. Sherman four (4) times today at 8:30am 8:59am, 9:09am, and at 11:19am.

Mr. Sherman returned my Call at approximately 11:30am. At this time I explained to him that I was representing you and was requesting a refund of moneys that have been paid over to him via crowd fund. In the amount of $300. He corrected saying it was $349.

He also inquired how much you were Paying me. I did not reply to that question

Mr. Sherman informed me that on the contract it was stated that there will be no refund for services. As services are very tedious and time consuming.

He also said that services were rendered to you in the form of Press release. Promotion, and consultation. He also stated that you chose to ignore consultation that you were given, and that you did not change your campaign as per your consultation.

He said you received all these services well up to 90 days, and that you had already tried to receive moneys back from the bank. He said he provided all valid information to the bank, which the bank allowed him to keep the funds, as he was able to prove that services were rendered.

He also stated that this matter is over a year old. And he will not be issuing any form of reimbursement.

He contends that he has rendered services to you, which you did not take advantage of and are now still requesting refund.

He stated that you received all emails and confirmation of emails in regards to his services.

He said you mailed him yesterday, and he just ignored your email.

Please note that these are all the information that I received from Mr. Sherman himself. None of the above statements are my person views, words or anything of that nature. It is all the information the same as Mr. Sherman has given to me. I am just giving you a report and feedback based on notes I took while he was on the phone. This is the full report. It just shows you what a lowlife you are dealing with

Look how much Mr. Howard is so confident in his skills he puts a "All sales are final" because they know once you figure out that they promise services they never deliver of course you will want a refund. If this company was really successful in getting people the money they needed from a campaign they wouldn't need to put such shady language.

This part of his call makes me a little upset. "Howard said the matter of more then a year old" it is over a year old. Ever since they robbed her blind of her money she has been asking to get it back. I recall from first time Tolkein told us about what took place. She said she tried to cancel the services almost as soon as she sent the money She was told it was Live and unable to cancel it. She was mislead by the Owner instead of doing the reasonable thing offering her the refund when she asked or at the very least picking a package that wasn't so expensive to her. Everyday since then almost every month. She's come on here to express her disappoint. Since the wave of complaints came in Howard has been vanishing.

To say the matter is a "Year old" as if they washes away anything. Shows you Howard is simply trying to wait it out. He knows all this time he owed her money It's so old because he never offered her money on day one that has no standing on how valid her complaint is. He never forgot. He just didn't care. The last message really speaks volumes about him. "The last email you sent. Howard ignored it" even if you are a past client of Howard who supports him or you never been a client of his before. It should disturb you that he openly is ignoring customer emails. Then after knowing he owned her money. Then took a screen shot right away he could post it on his website. This part really makes it look like Howard is grasping at straws.

"He also said that services were rendered to you in the form of Press release. Promotion, and consultation" I have spoken to that lady that helps them when they are out of the office. On their site they boast about having tens of thousands social media ways to promote it. They brag they have journalist at their fingertips. I think they don't know anyone. That they spam messages to a list who has no idea who they are. We've been told before their press releases can be done by a Middle School student that its been plagued by typo's [people can go back and read the email exchanges more then one complained about the poor quality of Press Release]

Frankly. I am still waiting on Fiverr.com to issue two different scripts with at least two video's telling people to stay away. I'm sure they are not this way to every customer. The fact they knew they owed her money. Someone from their office granted it. Then Howard decided to hide for almost a year. Only to return to take screen shots for his site. Completely ignoring people have been here patiently waiting for refund. Then admitting to ignoring a person's emails. I don't know a person like this should be in business. I feel like their are unprofessional and rude. It's been over a year just to get Howard to respond. Once he did he claims "It's been over a year" how ridiculous is that. I have been considering to file a class action lawsuit against the company on behalf of her. I'm sure there are other people who feel wronged and scammed. Right now I'm just waiting on the advertisement videos. It just upsets me when corrupt companies try to get away with stuff.

Amy Thompson
09-15-2015, 12:10 PM
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Thanks. The part that's really annoying. Howard complains on his site like we're the crazy ones almost a year ago he came on this forum answering questions/ responding to complaints as he should have been. He even offered someone who was unhappy with the service free package for Crowd Fund Buzz when they rejected. [They wanted the money instead. I don't blame them] then as more complaints started to flood in and right around the term Howard was supposed refund that one customer. He vanished. It appeared like he was avoiding that one person. Then after months and months of complaints by dozen's of different people.

After almost a year of unresolved complaints.

Howard returns only to say "there's no proof" I promised you anything. Not only that he mocks the person who was a paying customer on his website acting totally unprofessional. Then he attacks the people who run this forum as they have any control of what their users say.

The real dishonest thing that Howard comes on this site under the appearance he's looking for a reasonable discussion. He's not. He's spent less then a four hours on this sight. All that time he was just screen shot comments that he made then posted on his site. So that he can try to brag how right he is when he's not. I seriously hope no one is foolish enough to fall for that. Completely ignoring everything everyone side then picking responses he wants to reply to.

I thought this situation would have cooled down. I thought the reasonable thing would be to refund a customer then move on. Since it's not. I mentioned before I am making two video ad's to warn people to stay away. I don't think that will be enough. I hope we can grab the attention of would be customers before they get ripped off or at least have the one's he did rip off make a complaint here. We're not telling them what to say as Howard wants to believe. We just want to hear their side of the story without any flaming remarks in a respectful civil conversation.

Tolkein
09-15-2015, 08:32 PM
We need to take action and stop this nonsense. Taking class action against this individual is the only way to make him pay for what he has done. As a daughter of parents who owned their own business, I know my father did business different. I remember one particular instance, when my father mucked up an order. Instead of a chicken sandwich, Dad gave the customer a ham sandwich. The customer complained and Dad said I'll make you a chicken sandwich. The customer said "It taste beautiful...it is okay". Dad replied "Here is your money back, that sandwich is on me.....my treat". That customer was from that day on a loyal customer. In case you are wondering, my parents owned a small café. That is how my parents worked, if there was a problem they would sort it out straight away

Tolkein
09-15-2015, 08:32 PM
Not leave it for a year and just ignore people. Howard better watch his step or he might just end up facing a wire fraud charge

Amy Thompson
09-15-2015, 09:15 PM
Not leave it for a year and just ignore people. Howard better watch his step or he might just end up facing a wire fraud charge

The things Howard is facing are very serious. While he might laugh at any attempt to collect a debt. The things he promises on his site claiming to have tens of thousands of people etc. If just one of those things is proven false that is terms for Fraud. Not only that he faces Bait and Switch which is a felony. Where a company baits you into a really good offer, then they switch it to a lesser offer. I don't think Howard understands the gravity of the situation. I used to study law in college. I can easily spot a financial scam in the works.

The problem is Howard claims a ton of things on his site that simply aren't true. If you ever checked out his twitter feed he has perhaps one or two random favorites. This is a person claiming to have thirty thousand that he could promote your campaign too. I assume their not all on twitter. I highly suspect that he bought a bunch of twitter followers because there's little to no interaction. It would be very easy to prove these claims if the Police were able to do a forensic scan on his computer if even one error is wrong he can be charged with Fraud. Usually in high profile cases the FBI leads the field which is usually started by an anonymous tip. They spent months investigating when the FBI is done the people go to jail for a very long time. If these charges are valid. Howard could easily wind up in federal court.

I highly suspect that Howard is creating another company apart from Crowd Fund Buzz to scam people all over again. Best thing we can do today besides leaving a tip for FBI. Is the video that's in the works to be published that way more customers who were cheated by him can say "Hey. I know him. He ripped me off too" I have the script ready. Just finding a person on fiverr to read it for me.

In order for a class action lawsuit to proceed we would have to contact the people that are unhappy with Howard's work. Then they would all agree to sue as a group. Instead of making the payment to several different people. It would be to a single person who would deliver the money in portions to several people.

Amy Thompson
09-21-2015, 02:09 PM
I promised people many months ago before my PC crashed that I would have a video. I talked to actual live customers. I asked one of them to do a video and the rest are real propyl of actual customers. I don't have a channel. Thankfully. I have two friends who put them on several youtube accounts. I hope that does something good. I am not entirely done there. I'm going to make a facebook page. Created by a designer where people can share some of their stories. It's mosty to raise awareness. Some people may not know. This has the potential to save them literally hundreds of dollars.


https://youtu.be/amL9SuUMhtU

Amy Thompson
09-23-2015, 12:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amL9SuUMhtU&feature=youtu.be

The tube you been waiting on. Soon we'll have a facebook page directing the attention of those concerned on it for inputs on how to contribute to th the discussion we already have Soon more to cme featuring mre ays to out reach the same way this comany lies lik when that company decided to ignore everyone for over a year. Then not only that, decide that somhow we are the problem. This serial scam sight might think their being smart by attaching pics they literally signed on here to get then ran some would say like taking the money and running. Something they often do their clients. They believe they are calling out this crowd. Expect their not. They decided not have a discussion here where everyone is welcome, moved to their site which can't even respond. I am doing this because Howard ignored, condensing peope who spent hundreds of dollars. Doesn't hold the self control to foster his own emotions. Well this my way o bringing more people to discussion

Tolkein
09-24-2015, 12:33 AM
i loved the video. It was direct and straight to the point. Well done Amy. The only way to make Howard learn the error of his ways is to make him pay. Hurting him in the hip pocket would be The only way to go.

Amy Thompson
09-24-2015, 01:45 AM
Thank you..this is not the start of it. I know two things well...poltics and business..I'm not going lie. This thread didn't magically appear because Howard refuses to believe anything what people say. It's here for a very serious problem. Now as much as Howard wants to say it's not. It is, that it a fact. This isn't part his imagation. He screwed over people. I am going make a professional youtube page then a facebook page while im doing both those things. I'm messaging his twitter feeds some aren't even his customers and others don't exist. I will tell each of them to read this thread. Decide on their own. I won't force them. I will lay out logic and common sense.

I have a moral thing about someone being corrupted by greed then lying on solid promises. I really do. If Howard rather do his shady deals. I will expose it all to the light. He should been fair. Now I'm going to do what I normally do that's get victim outreach story then promote it and get more people hearing of it. Let the people decide after reading this if they want his business. He treats this place as a joke. He think's he's so smart. Well with your help. He's going be corrected. As Bane in Batman said when the people are tired, being cheated, pushed on and lied to. When a person almost steal's your money then mocks you. It does the entire community of crowd fund raiser a bad name.

Amy Thompson
09-24-2015, 05:34 PM
Almost 500 views on you tube...wait..no..not stopping..getting started..spending my own money to counter this. Over a year he has refused to listen. Taking money for services not provided. Well I am going do something with support of some people. We will counter this baseless amd ridiculous comments he made before he ran like a coward back to the site where he can easily get cash for writting middle school PR reports. Several customers had correct those..guess skill of person wasn't there


http://i59.tinypic.com/2whh7dg.jpg

Amy Thompson
09-25-2015, 09:44 PM
I would rather edit the earlier thread. Then push this with it. I can't so. I'm sad bring you the SECOND customer who has decided to voice their thoughts. A big turn around when Howard openly mocked his customers. Now its two people on video claiming to be ripped off by the site has dozens saying the same thing. Don't take my word. Listen for yourself.

This isn't easy. It's as if I know exactly where to look and what to do. I never seriously did this till Howard came back for a final kick in our face. Now spendng my mney on everything. I think we are on te moral ground. I have orders pending for more stuff. I hope this company stops ripping off people. If you think this is it. I'm going make it look nice and polished. Then re polish it. I want Howard to know his actions and personality, along with bad business lead to this. No other crowd fund raiser has deal with this. May this be an example that other's fear ripping off customers of geting on them.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JTKbONRrZ8

Tolkein
09-27-2015, 08:22 PM
It is just a suggestion Amy. How about setting up a crowdfunding page of our own to help the people on this forum recoupe their losses and your expenses. It is just an idea but using our own promoting abilities etc!

Tolkein
09-27-2015, 08:23 PM
Keep up the good work Amy. It is important that the message gets out there.

knoxinator
09-29-2015, 01:10 AM
Why do people do this? I suppose any way to get money off people these days is everywhere. I get emails everyday from my kickstarter on people saying that my project is the best idea ever? Yeah best idea ever and no funds donated... lol..., could be worse I could pay some indian on Fiverr to advertise my campaign on some indian site...

Tolkein
09-29-2015, 08:48 PM
The reason people do this, is greed and power. They are not satisfied with just earning a little in life. I have a brother like that. He was most upset when he received less than a 1m for a house. My brother is in Real Estate. I looked at him and said "Haven't you learnt anything from the Pharaohs of Ancient Egypt?". "What has that got to do with selling a house sis" he replied. "The pharaohs prepared all goods for their afterlife but it is still there in the Valley of the Kings or Queens, in Egypt". "Yes so" my brother replied. "You cannot take it with you, so what the hell..........you made a profit...........and you should be happy with that. With that comment he threw his arms up in the air and stormed off! All that agro for what "Money".